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Old 09-04-2016, 09:27 AM
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Don't know about Compasses bases, but from what I understand, Skywest's midwest bases are junior. Someone from SW would have to chime in. As RAH becomes more and more NYcentric, the seniority of whatever is left of the west/midwest becomes greater. MCI is probably next to go, and with the "bump and flush" in the new contract, coming to Republic and hoping to be anywhere but EWR/LGA is a gamble.
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Don't know about Compasses bases, but from what I understand, Skywest's midwest bases are junior. Someone from SW would have to chime in. As RAH becomes more and more NYcentric, the seniority of whatever is left of the west/midwest becomes greater. MCI is probably next to go, and with the "bump and flush" in the new contract, coming to Republic and hoping to be anywhere but EWR/LGA is a gamble.
Good to know. It will probably boil down to me commuting from the Midwest regardless. Which basically leaves the door wide open for any of the regionals. Thanks for the info!
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Old 09-04-2016, 10:11 AM
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MSP is really senior for compass on the CA side, but has gone quite junior for FOs, plenty have gotten it out of training. Most people going to compass now want west coast and when they upgrade I imagine as MSP CA get hired, and leave, it'll get more junior and junior, as most of those hired in the past 2 years (Which is a large % of the airline) want to stay on the west coast.
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Old 09-04-2016, 10:15 AM
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If you want to live in the Midwest I honestly don't think you can do better than Skywest. With DTW, MSP, and ORD as junior base options, depending on where you choose to live you could likely be in driving distance of one of them even if you don't want to live right in the city.
It's a growing company with about as much stability as you could hope for in the regional airline industry.
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Old 09-04-2016, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by TJBrass
Don't go to RJET if you're thinking about going back to the midwest. Although they advertise MCI ORD IND MIA CMH, they are all "Super Lifer" senior , since the recent base closures. If you go to Republic, your going to NY. (for a long time)
Hahaha, some people's kids. You can hold any of those Midwest bases within a month or two.
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Old 09-04-2016, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Eaglepilot84
Take what you just wrote here into serious consideration. Where do you want to be in 8 years and what is your definition of a "major"? Don't expect any of the big 3 to be knocking down your doors within the next 8 years simply because you have some TPIC or you flew the EJET. I'm not saying it's not possible, but too many new guys are treating this career as a sprint and not the marathon that it is.
Interesting you say that i'm considering Envoy as a Marathon, and others due as a sprint to Capt. Yet if i sprint i'll be competing with 10,000 other RJ pilots for the few AA openings UAL openings and DL openings.

So i rather take my number and be patient even is its 10yrs, i'll still be young enough to enjoy a 25yrs+ career.

My biggest concern is in 3-4 yrs ALPA/Envoy MEC strike down this STUPID 8yr cap on FO pay/12yr cap on Captains pay. At the same time i think i understand the logic behind it to motivate a Capt to flow vs being lifer and stagnating upgrades in the future, so i guess the cap is good?

I rather wait on 1,800 to flow ahead of me and move so i can move on. While having options to apply to other majors, or LLC, or International Carriers if their pay & QOL rised up to AA DL, UAL standards.

I don't need a 35-40yr career. I hope to retire early. A man who is 30yrs old an a new hire at Envoy doing 10yrs before flowing can still have a successful 25yr career and AA.

Still a multi-million dollar career at AA.

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Old 09-04-2016, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by boiler07
You're making a lot of assumptions about rah. Especially since it's still a very fluid situation with bankruptcy. Although some would have you believe that the path out of BK is clear, the reality is that it's quite obscured at the moment.
Vauge statement with no substance.... explain the fluid situation then.

If not your statement was very blah blah...

Read the news articles and statements by financial analysts. It is CLEAR.

Are you at RAH? I'm not but have been doing my research before selecting a regional carrier. I'm not going Endeavor for a few good reasons. Deltas' statements strategically reducing 50 seaters (and wanting to park them as soon as are able). 2018 is too soon a gamble. Just like those who gamble AWC getting AA feed. Too risky for me.


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Old 09-04-2016, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by SilentLurker
Vauge statement with no substance.... explain the fluid situation then.

If not your statement was very blah blah...

Read the news articles and statements by financial analysts. It is CLEAR.

Are you at RAH? I'm not but have been doing my research before selecting a regional carrier. I'm not going Endeavor for a few good reasons. Deltas' statements strategically reducing 50 seaters (and wanting to park them as soon as are able). 2018 is too soon a gamble. Just like those who gamble AWC getting AA feed. Too risky for me.


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Must be nice to sit back and hand pick where you go. Anything could happen, and it could be a nightmare again to be on the outside looking in. I agree with others, once you get 1000 tpic, not much changes. Go somewhere that you wont mind being stuck at. On the other side of the coin, for what ever reason, if only one airline wants to give you a chance, then thats where you go to get your foot in the 121 door.
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Originally Posted by SilentLurker
Interesting you say that i'm considering Envoy as a Marathon, and others due as a sprint to Capt. Yet if i sprint i'll be competing with 10,000 other RJ pilots for the few AA openings UAL openings and DL openings.

So i rather take my number and be patient even is its 10yrs, i'll still be young enough to enjoy a 25yrs+ career.

My biggest concern is in 3-4 yrs ALPA/Envoy MEC strike down this STUPID 8yr cap on FO pay/12yr cap on Captains pay. At the same time i think i understand the logic behind it to motivate a Capt to flow vs being lifer and stagnating upgrades in the future, so i guess the cap is good?

I rather wait on 1,800 to flow ahead of me and move so i can move on. While having options to apply to other majors, or LLC, or International Carriers if their pay & QOL rised up to AA DL, UAL standards.

I don't need a 35-40yr career. I hope to retire early. A man who is 30yrs old an a new hire at Envoy doing 10yrs before flowing can still have a successful 25yr career and AA.

Still a multi-million dollar career at AA.

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Originally Posted by RemoveB4Flight
If you want to live in the Midwest I honestly don't think you can do better than Skywest. With DTW, MSP, and ORD as junior base options, depending on where you choose to live you could likely be in driving distance of one of them even if you don't want to live right in the city.
It's a growing company with about as much stability as you could hope for in the regional airline industry.
Thanks for the info! We are looking at the Kansas city area so I will be commuting regardless. Having more base options in the Midwest is a huge advantage for skywest.
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