What's going on with Mesaba?
#41
Thanks guys! Mesaba does sound like things are turning around. I used to keep an eye on them when I lived in ND and MN so this is all good news. I appreciate the advice and I'll keep all of that in mind.
#42
Thanks guys! Mesaba does sound like things are turning around. I used to keep an eye on them when I lived in ND and MN so this is all good news. I appreciate the advice and I'll keep all of that in mind.
#43
Seriously and not trying to be a prick, but anyone looking at mesaba that didnt want to be a mesaba a year ago should go to XJT or somewhere. Think of mesaba as a blue collar pilot job where pay is fair, not great. It is also a place where experience speaks more than "shiny jet syndrome". Mesaba is no XJT, Horizon, SKYW, and definetly not PNCL, it's Mesaba. Part of the Redtail empire, and dont come jumping at it now when you talking trash about it six months ago. Bankruptcy and no one wanted to be there, new shiny jets and "yeah it sounds like a great opportunity", no it is not a FLOW THROUGH to NWA and probably never will be. I personally hope they slap a training contract on new hires to keep them from time buliding like a bunch of old colgan guys did just to get somewhere else... that kills an airline alot more than you think.
#44
We do have a new hire training contract. It is a two part deal. 1-year $21,000 pro-rated after completion of IOE for new hires. It also has a "Long-Term Training" clause that says if you upgrade and leave prior to completing 3 years with the company, you will owe a 12 month pro-rated amount of the upgrade cost which is $6,000.
#45
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Seriously and not trying to be a prick, but anyone looking at mesaba that didnt want to be a mesaba a year ago should go to XJT or somewhere. Think of mesaba as a blue collar pilot job where pay is fair, not great. It is also a place where experience speaks more than "shiny jet syndrome". Mesaba is no XJT, Horizon, SKYW, and definetly not PNCL, it's Mesaba. Part of the Redtail empire, and dont come jumping at it now when you talking trash about it six months ago. Bankruptcy and no one wanted to be there, new shiny jets and "yeah it sounds like a great opportunity", no it is not a FLOW THROUGH to NWA and probably never will be. I personally hope they slap a training contract on new hires to keep them from time buliding like a bunch of old colgan guys did just to get somewhere else... that kills an airline alot more than you think.
#46
except with us, we are not taking a concessionary contract. the company has tried on several attempts to trick us into taking cuts to get the nwa flying. we of course said hell no and that we dont give a crap about any new flying. we don't care about the flying in slc for delta that has been floating around. we wont give in. all we care about is our qol, which is going to change whether the company likes it or not. so saying that you guys are some superior red tail airline made me chuckle a little bit.
Can you point me to where someone claimed Mesaba to be "some superior red tail airline." I would like to read that.
#47
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no i dont have a lot to get off my chest. i was quoting sigep_nm(see the post above mine and yours.) no just wanted to let him know that just because someone wants to go to mesaba now that they have good potential doesn't mean that they cant. sigep_nm is saying that if you didn't want to go to mesaba before, you shouldn't go now. thats ridiculous. i am glad mesaba is doing good. they deserve the break just like we did a couple of years ago. my post is in no way an attack on my brothers at mesaba. just sigep_nm attitude towrds people who want to go there now is a little messed up.
#48
Seriously and not trying to be a prick, but anyone looking at mesaba that didnt want to be a mesaba a year ago should go to XJT or somewhere. Think of mesaba as a blue collar pilot job where pay is fair, not great. It is also a place where experience speaks more than "shiny jet syndrome". Mesaba is no XJT, Horizon, SKYW, and definetly not PNCL, it's Mesaba. Part of the Redtail empire, and dont come jumping at it now when you talking trash about it six months ago. Bankruptcy and no one wanted to be there, new shiny jets and "yeah it sounds like a great opportunity", no it is not a FLOW THROUGH to NWA and probably never will be. I personally hope they slap a training contract on new hires to keep them from time buliding like a bunch of old colgan guys did just to get somewhere else... that kills an airline alot more than you think.
Basically, I wanted some friendly advise from the "other" side of the fence. I have gotten plenty of that but at the same time, I've also tapped into some bitterness...sorry!
#49
I'm confused. I think there is a non-Mesaba pilot posting a critique on a non-Mesaba pilot's post about Mesaba. Is this one of those situations where my enemies enemy is my friend ? Trouble is I can't figure out who is who.
Good arguments guys. Makes people think before they make a decision - a rare comodity in todays world.
Good arguments guys. Makes people think before they make a decision - a rare comodity in todays world.
Last edited by Ftrooppilot; 02-25-2007 at 02:26 PM.
#50
So my next question (and I think a couple people have tried to address this) is; how will getting these new RJs be affected by people who are currently flying the SAABs? In other words, wouldn't they all want to move over to the RJ, placing new hires in the SAABs instead? I'm sure there's more to this as far as contract stuff, pros and cons, etc. than my corporate aviation pea brain can understand but I'd sure like to hear what people think about this...especially Mesaba pilots.
Also, does anyone have any idea of what reserve times will be like for new hires (especially if they go on the RJ)? I would think that they need to fill seats right now but again, reserve is a foreign word to a corporate slug like me.
Thanks again....
Also, does anyone have any idea of what reserve times will be like for new hires (especially if they go on the RJ)? I would think that they need to fill seats right now but again, reserve is a foreign word to a corporate slug like me.
Thanks again....
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