GoJets must be getting desperate
06-08-2016, 04:25 AM
#61
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I spent several years at Gojet. I have read all of the bad reviews. I have read how if you do give them notice you are leaving they cut off your CASS and flight privileges before you get back to your base to force you to buy a ticket home. I have read about guys needing FMLA and being terminated. I have read about flight attendants getting breast cancer and immediately being given a checkride so they can be failed and then fired. I have read that they will now flunk you on a check ride to make you less employable so you won't leave Gojet (see the 70% checkered fail rate).
But is any of that true? Does it really happen?
From my experience, I can honestly say that it is much worse than you have read about. I do not recommend going there. it needs to be shutdown and made a lesson to the other carriers. It will close so I believe.
But is any of that true? Does it really happen?
From my experience, I can honestly say that it is much worse than you have read about. I do not recommend going there. it needs to be shutdown and made a lesson to the other carriers. It will close so I believe.
I used to ghost these posts about Gojet and think it can't be that bad...well when you know people personally affected by them there are no doubts from me.
06-08-2016, 11:16 AM
#63
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06-08-2016, 11:17 AM
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Actually it was about rate resets with Skywest and Delta's plan to use Gojets and Endeavor do force rate resets.
06-08-2016, 11:22 AM
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06-08-2016, 12:05 PM
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06-11-2016, 10:36 AM
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I just flew with a guy who jumpseated on a G7 flight last week. The Captain of the flight was an instructor who was taking advantage of the 300%.
The Captain/Instructor stated that the pass rate for first time upgrades was 30%.
Yeah...maybe there are some pilots who are showing up unprepared. (We've all heard of the 150 hour IOE heroes.) Although I have to be a little skeptical that 70% of the pilots go into the upgrade with a DILLYIGAF attitude, particularly when the failure rate is so well known on the property. Nobody wants a bust on their record. In fact, some of that failure could probably be shared by the instructors and the Check Airmen (pink-slip-pete?).
Maybe G7 needs to spend some money and actually do some training. There's got to be an inflection point where two or three more FBSs or Sims will increase that success rate to 80 or 90%. That has to be more cost effective than a 70% failure rate and a full footprint on the second attempt.
Hog
The Captain/Instructor stated that the pass rate for first time upgrades was 30%.
Yeah...maybe there are some pilots who are showing up unprepared. (We've all heard of the 150 hour IOE heroes.) Although I have to be a little skeptical that 70% of the pilots go into the upgrade with a DILLYIGAF attitude, particularly when the failure rate is so well known on the property. Nobody wants a bust on their record. In fact, some of that failure could probably be shared by the instructors and the Check Airmen (pink-slip-pete?).
Maybe G7 needs to spend some money and actually do some training. There's got to be an inflection point where two or three more FBSs or Sims will increase that success rate to 80 or 90%. That has to be more cost effective than a 70% failure rate and a full footprint on the second attempt.
Hog
This is true. I heard that the recent upgrade class of 16 had only 6 passes. They'd rather hire street captains than spend money on training. Street captain failure right now is over 50%.
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