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Old 04-17-2016, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by msprj2
Better Employee?
From what I see and hear they get hired finish IOE and then leave for MIL then return when they can hold a good schedule or upgrade. Yes outstanding employees if that's what you call it.
This started by talking about getting hired at major airlines not regionals. Yes, low time guard guys pull that. Do I agree with the behavior? No. They are exploiting a federal law that protects their civilian job.
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Old 04-17-2016, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 1stCivDivPilot
This started by talking about getting hired at major airlines not regionals. Yes, low time guard guys pull that. Do I agree with the behavior? No. They are exploiting a federal law that protects their civilian job.
Delta is having same problem and they're not happy about it. I guess your
military brothers aren't concerned about being great employees rather schedule and $.
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Old 04-17-2016, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by WMUFlyboy1
Wow... You're really giving military pilots a bad name with that attitude. Way to just belittle all your civilian colleagues.


Military or cavilian, it doesn't matter. There are good and bad from both sides. What matters is the PERSON not where they came from...
Did I say civilian only pilots were bad or incapable? I didn't belittle anyone. Absolutely some are rock stars and better than quite a few mil pilots. For the vast majority it's not true. It doesn't really matter what you think, the proof is in the hiring standards. If 2000-5000 hour civilian pilots were a safe bet for the majors, that's where they'd be hiring.

Bottom line is all you people who think the military thing is "unfair" have never done it. You know half the equation. You have zero real concept of what is required to pass military flight school and fly in the operational forces. The military pilots have done both and can therefore compare and contrast based on experience. I'm Winchester, RTB.
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Old 04-17-2016, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 1stCivDivPilot
Put you in a simulator running the same scenario and 99 out of 100 times you'd be a smear on the ground with hundreds of casualties. His ability to assess the situation, make decisions and react after the stuff hit the fan is far greater than yours and he's a better pilot. Human error happens everywhere. That doesn't change the fact that side by side at the end of the day a military trained pilot is a better pilot and a better employee. If it wasn't true the majors wouldn't seek out mil guys and hire them at lower hours. If that burns you up, that's your problem. Sorry you can't accept reality.
Still doesn't change the fact that Captain America made a rookie mistake that led to him putting a perfectly good airplane in the dirt. All that skill and training you hold up didn't prevent that. He's human. So are you and I and every other pilot on this planet. THAT is the point. Pride goeth before the fall.
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Old 04-17-2016, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 1stCivDivPilot
Did I say civilian only pilots were bad or incapable? I didn't belittle anyone. Absolutely some are rock stars and better than quite a few mil pilots. For the vast majority it's not true. It doesn't really matter what you think, the proof is in the hiring standards. If 2000-5000 hour civilian pilots were a safe bet for the majors, that's where they'd be hiring.

Bottom line is all you people who think the military thing is "unfair" have never done it. You know half the equation. You have zero real concept of what is required to pass military flight school and fly in the operational forces. The military pilots have done both and can therefore compare and contrast based on experience. I'm Winchester, RTB.
When ex-military guys are doing interviews who do you think they're gonna
want see getting hired? Nobody is saying the military pilots are inadequate
but they aren't all Chuck Yeager's either. We've all flown with good/bad pilots and you cannot judge the book by the cover.
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Old 04-17-2016, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 1stCivDivPilot
Did I say civilian only pilots were bad or incapable? I didn't belittle anyone. Absolutely some are rock stars and better than quite a few mil pilots. For the vast majority it's not true. It doesn't really matter what you think, the proof is in the hiring standards. If 2000-5000 hour civilian pilots were a safe bet for the majors, that's where they'd be hiring.

Bottom line is all you people who think the military thing is "unfair" have never done it. You know half the equation. You have zero real concept of what is required to pass military flight school and fly in the operational forces. The military pilots have done both and can therefore compare and contrast based on experience. I'm Winchester, RTB.
Didn't belittle anyone? Riiiiiiiiiiiiight...you must be a peach to spend a 4-day with.
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Old 04-18-2016, 05:28 AM
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Please. Stop. The. Madness.

Internet fighting, Not Worth it....

Move Along.
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Old 04-18-2016, 06:10 AM
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Y'all just need to get along, jeez. Once you've made it to the airlines, what else do you have to prove? Everyone has worked just as hard in their own way and everyone is trying to get to the majors. All past history has its ups and downs....it doesn't mean one is more deserving or better than the other. Once you have your ATP you're part of the club and should be held to the same standards professionally.
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Old 04-18-2016, 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by msprj2
When ex-military guys are doing interviews who do you think they're gonna
want see getting hired? Nobody is saying the military pilots are inadequate
but they aren't all Chuck Yeager's either. We've all flown with good/bad pilots and you cannot judge the book by the cover.
Does the same hold true when non-military guys do the interviewing? Do they hope non-military guys get hired?
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Old 04-18-2016, 08:32 AM
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It's pretty frustrating and petty that an interesting thread has devolved into a mudslinging appendage measuring contest.
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