Forbes: Regional Airlines Shrinkage/Consolida
01-28-2016, 05:57 AM
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I LOL'd, coming from someone (ie. you) who wants free healthcare. You're asking for health care, for free, in spite of someone else's hard work.
Hypocrite.
01-28-2016, 05:59 AM
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But regional airlines are entry level jobs. Where else in the world (outside of the military) could anyone get a job flying a jet with 250 hours and a wet commercial certificate? Or become a "captain" at 1500 hours with nothing more than a few hundred hours of Cessna command time under their belt? The standards dropped so incredibly low that regionals will forever be seen as substandard.
The father of a friend of mine was a Private Pilot when he was hired at Northwest Orient. He retired a DC-10 captain about 12 years ago or so.
Virtually all the flying done at so-called "regional" airlines was done on mainline certificates 25 years ago. It was done on DC-9s and 737s. Regional airlines were created to put an end to that.
01-28-2016, 06:07 AM
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They cannot repeal it, but they can amend the amount of sim time allowed to be conted towards the 1500
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01-28-2016, 06:24 AM
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01-28-2016, 06:29 AM
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I'm not asking for free healthcare, Donald. I'm saying we need to take consumerism out of health care and make it a tax. If you think the below graphic makes our health care THAT much better than the rest of the developed world, you don't understand how Capitalism works. Look at all those socialists and how expensive their healthcare is. Do you want to guess how many of their citizens go broke fighting cancer?
01-28-2016, 06:29 AM
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Contract Airlines (used to be known as regional airlines) are going to disintegrate. There's going to be a pecking order. Republic and Skywest will go before the wholly owned carriers. Maybe they go out of business maybe not, but they will be a shell of their former selves operated by pilots who won't or can't leave to the majors.
01-28-2016, 06:30 AM
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That's how it used to be at majors. I talked with guys who were aware of 25 year old Boeing 707 captains in the early 1960s. Yes, you read that correctly.
The father of a friend of mine was a Private Pilot when he was hired at Northwest Orient. He retired a DC-10 captain about 12 years ago or so.
Virtually all the flying done at so-called "regional" airlines was done on mainline certificates 25 years ago. It was done on DC-9s and 737s. Regional airlines were created to put an end to that.
The father of a friend of mine was a Private Pilot when he was hired at Northwest Orient. He retired a DC-10 captain about 12 years ago or so.
Virtually all the flying done at so-called "regional" airlines was done on mainline certificates 25 years ago. It was done on DC-9s and 737s. Regional airlines were created to put an end to that.
01-28-2016, 06:30 AM
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This is correct. "Regional Airlines" are nothing more than an outsourced C-Scale with no career advancement.
Put these airplanes, all of them, on the mainline certificate and this problem goes away. It would take a full scale shift in thinking but the recruitment problems and the fact that nobody is getting into this business anymore would end quickly.
Give it a career path and it can be a good career. "Regional" (I hate that word as it's nothing but language that was put in place to sell the industry and the public on the idea that it's a lower level of flying, 'entry level' so to speak, which it most definitely is not) airlines are dead end jobs.
Bring this back in house and the problem is solved very quickly.
Put these airplanes, all of them, on the mainline certificate and this problem goes away. It would take a full scale shift in thinking but the recruitment problems and the fact that nobody is getting into this business anymore would end quickly.
Give it a career path and it can be a good career. "Regional" (I hate that word as it's nothing but language that was put in place to sell the industry and the public on the idea that it's a lower level of flying, 'entry level' so to speak, which it most definitely is not) airlines are dead end jobs.
Bring this back in house and the problem is solved very quickly.
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