Alaska to order 30 large RJs in 1st QTR 2016
01-23-2016, 02:18 PM
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Interesting theory. I've never thought a major's scope protections would ever apply to a code share partner. Are you sure about this?
01-23-2016, 04:58 PM
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Interesting what everyone worries about. Regionals used to be nine seats and the big break was when they got 19. Mainline used to be 37. So who exactly has the balls to say a regional pilot groups can't fly and should not even be flying 76. As long as mainline sells there souls management will maintain an A scale and B scale airline and they will have whoever fly's it for less fly it. Usually there is some scope but if a major runs to the government they will throw your whole contract out to save them so the circle continues, why bother. This Horizon contract will pass the jets will come and when the larger ones show up they will dangle a carrot in front of the Alaska pilots to let someone fly the 100 seat jet and the decision will be there's because some one will fly for less than them. What I want to see is the carrot. Maybe we get 787 to mainline and let Horizon fly the little jets. Either way you as a single pilot can wine all you want the majority will vote for self preservation and management will do what is best for them.
01-24-2016, 08:15 AM
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https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...t-quar-421088/
Alaska to order 30 large regional jets in first quarter 2016
Alaska Air Group expects to place an order for up to 30 large regional jets in the first quarter of 2016, with deliveries expected to begin in 2017.
The new aircraft will likely have about 76-seats and be operated by regional partner Horizon Air, says the Seattle-based carrier's chief financial officer Brandon Pedersen during an earnings call today.
Those aircraft would partly replace capacity lost as Horizon returns 15 leased Bombardier Q400 turboprops in 2018, he says.
“We are in the final phase of a regional jet campaign,” says Pedersen. “Our intent is for those aircraft to be flown by Horizon if their pilots and flight attendants approve changes to their collective bargaining agreements.”
“Voting is taking place now,” he says.
Executives do not say what type of aircraft Horizon is considering except that they plan to outfit them with three service classes.
That would align the new aircraft with Alaska’s Boeing 737s and its Embraer 175s operated by SkyWest Airlines.
Both of those aircraft types have economy and first class cabins but Alaska announced in December 2015 that it will begin installing premium economy seats to both types later this year.
Pedersen and other executives say more large regional aircraft will enable Alaska to continue adding profitable medium-range routes to its network.
Large regional jets have more range than the Q400s, are more comfortable for passengers and have lower trip costs on stages of more than 400 miles, Pedersen says.
“This is an area where we see plenty of room for profitable growth in 2016 and beyond,” adds Alaska's chief commercial officer Andrew Harrison.
New aircraft in the 76-seat range include current-generation models like the Bombardier CRJ900 and E175 and next-generation models like E175-E2 and Mitsubishi MRJ70.
Executives say they are not seriously considering an aircraft with 100 seats – such as Bombardier’s CS100.
“We have thought about it but right now we are moving forward with a 76-seat regional jet at Horizon,” says Pedersen.
Regional partner SkyWest already operates five E175s and eight Bombardier CRJ700s for Alaska.
However, all eight CRJ700s will be removed from service in 2016 and replaced by 10 new E175s, Alaska's fleet plan shows.
Although Alaska intends to begin operating regional jets under its Horizon division, Pedersen insists SkyWest will continue to operate some regional jets for Alaska.
Alaska to order 30 large regional jets in first quarter 2016
Alaska Air Group expects to place an order for up to 30 large regional jets in the first quarter of 2016, with deliveries expected to begin in 2017.
The new aircraft will likely have about 76-seats and be operated by regional partner Horizon Air, says the Seattle-based carrier's chief financial officer Brandon Pedersen during an earnings call today.
Those aircraft would partly replace capacity lost as Horizon returns 15 leased Bombardier Q400 turboprops in 2018, he says.
“We are in the final phase of a regional jet campaign,” says Pedersen. “Our intent is for those aircraft to be flown by Horizon if their pilots and flight attendants approve changes to their collective bargaining agreements.”
“Voting is taking place now,” he says.
Executives do not say what type of aircraft Horizon is considering except that they plan to outfit them with three service classes.
That would align the new aircraft with Alaska’s Boeing 737s and its Embraer 175s operated by SkyWest Airlines.
Both of those aircraft types have economy and first class cabins but Alaska announced in December 2015 that it will begin installing premium economy seats to both types later this year.
Pedersen and other executives say more large regional aircraft will enable Alaska to continue adding profitable medium-range routes to its network.
Large regional jets have more range than the Q400s, are more comfortable for passengers and have lower trip costs on stages of more than 400 miles, Pedersen says.
“This is an area where we see plenty of room for profitable growth in 2016 and beyond,” adds Alaska's chief commercial officer Andrew Harrison.
New aircraft in the 76-seat range include current-generation models like the Bombardier CRJ900 and E175 and next-generation models like E175-E2 and Mitsubishi MRJ70.
Executives say they are not seriously considering an aircraft with 100 seats – such as Bombardier’s CS100.
“We have thought about it but right now we are moving forward with a 76-seat regional jet at Horizon,” says Pedersen.
Regional partner SkyWest already operates five E175s and eight Bombardier CRJ700s for Alaska.
However, all eight CRJ700s will be removed from service in 2016 and replaced by 10 new E175s, Alaska's fleet plan shows.
Although Alaska intends to begin operating regional jets under its Horizon division, Pedersen insists SkyWest will continue to operate some regional jets for Alaska.
Just means you'll be stuck there a lot longer.
Besides, they won't be able to find the numnuts to fly all of them.
01-24-2016, 08:20 AM
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01-24-2016, 04:19 PM
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APA scope language does restrict what size airplanes codeshare partners can operate. When Chautauqua first started flying the E-170, APA was fining Chautauqua several million dollars for the scope violation. Thats why we had the huge rush to start up the Republic alter-ego certificate which failed miserably at first. We then bought shuttle america to put the planes on that certificate in order to get around APA scope. BB is slicker than a TV preacher when it comes to finding loopholes.
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