Warning to new hires
01-21-2016, 05:50 PM
#61
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What concessions did we take for the flow?
01-22-2016, 06:15 AM
#63
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Joined APC: Aug 2010
Posts: 547
I would expect nothing less out of you. Hopefully, when you get over to AA, the men will show you how to stand up for yourself and have a little self respect.
01-22-2016, 07:29 AM
#69
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Posts: 8,350
If only. 
The feeble validation of the Protected Pilot Agreement was at the expense of the crown jewel of your contract, that being transfer rights with aircraft handed over on a silver platter for what essentially is a large slice of Swiss cheese. Virtually EVERYTHING you had or could do was founded on that single point of leverage.
This statement of yours explains very much why so many present Envoy pilots have deluded themselves about their futures and the risks therein and that is because they get an "F" in history for making no effort to learn it or ditching class to pick up babes and get loaded.
The feeble validation of the Protected Pilot Agreement was at the expense of the crown jewel of your contract, that being transfer rights with aircraft handed over on a silver platter for what essentially is a large slice of Swiss cheese. Virtually EVERYTHING you had or could do was founded on that single point of leverage.
This statement of yours explains very much why so many present Envoy pilots have deluded themselves about their futures and the risks therein and that is because they get an "F" in history for making no effort to learn it or ditching class to pick up babes and get loaded.
01-22-2016, 07:34 AM
#70
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Posts: 8,350
Perhaps, but Envoy has hundreds of $120,000/year captains and you can be SURE that will indeed be corrected within 12-18 months. Either take the flow in the "new" carrier or accept 12th year scale. Of course, the third option is to hit the bricks.
Parker isn't going to leave good money on the table that is a complete waste when it can easily be recouped. Envoy ALPA will take the lessor of two evils, but first Envoy ALPA will be reshaped with a new leadership when the present one goes to AA. Got to get them there within the timeline and so the flow for the 824 will move on at a good clip barring the unforeseen. Since Envoy will never get that many pilots there, it will contract and upgrades will continue at a "trickle" as one union rep said.
Parker isn't going to leave good money on the table that is a complete waste when it can easily be recouped. Envoy ALPA will take the lessor of two evils, but first Envoy ALPA will be reshaped with a new leadership when the present one goes to AA. Got to get them there within the timeline and so the flow for the 824 will move on at a good clip barring the unforeseen. Since Envoy will never get that many pilots there, it will contract and upgrades will continue at a "trickle" as one union rep said.
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