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Yeah but our last operational bonus was only like $135. Problem with this program, at least for the pilots, is that mishandled bags and Wx at Denver and SFO cuts into the check. Kinda out of the pilot's control but oh well. I get the financial bonus and it's usually around the neighborhood of 6%. So you can tack that on to your anual salary as well.
The stock options aren't bad either. I think the last grant was in the neighborhood of $19. You could sell them immediately for the current price which is about $27. So exercise a few hundred options, not so bad (except for the capital gains hit ).
The stock options aren't bad either. I think the last grant was in the neighborhood of $19. You could sell them immediately for the current price which is about $27. So exercise a few hundred options, not so bad (except for the capital gains hit ).
The problem’s with the bonus program is its not specific to employee groups. And the payout is not enough to worry about. Also with the performance award being based on income generated for the quarter, management can adjust that to what ever number they need. (i.e. prepayment on engine overhauls, purchase of additional equipment etc.).
More money is great, but the fact that they think we are motivated by a couple hundred bucks represents a pretty disassociated mentality from the folks down in sgu.
#53
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If you think for a minute that if SkyWest ends up unionized it will cause the seniority lists at ASA & SkyWest to be merged, you'd better go back and start school over again. Managements are more alike than different (even good ones) and they will keep the two separted so they can whipsaw the two groups against each other to keep wages low. Just dangle growth and pilots will work for less to be able to take a grab at the brass ring.
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If you think for a minute that if SkyWest ends up unionized it will cause the seniority lists at ASA & SkyWest to be merged, you'd better go back and start school over again. Managements are more alike than different (even good ones) and they will keep the two separted so they can whipsaw the two groups against each other to keep wages low. Just dangle growth and pilots will work for less to be able to take a grab at the brass ring.
#56
They should. If you're concerned about it, it's a good opportunity to try to hack through the phone system to somebody in HR to "confirm it went through" and talk them up a bit. Good luck Duck!
#57
Stock options? those are a thing of the past at skyw my friend. They now issue you stock that becomes yours after something like 5 years IF you are still employed by skyw. So if you leave early you get nothing. I works out to be 300-500 for fo's per year. So you may just want to hold off on that swa airlines interview to collect your 500$ longevity stock award.
The problem’s with the bonus program is its not specific to employee groups. And the payout is not enough to worry about. Also with the performance award being based on income generated for the quarter, management can adjust that to what ever number they need. (i.e. prepayment on engine overhauls, purchase of additional equipment etc.).
More money is great, but the fact that they think we are motivated by a couple hundred bucks represents a pretty disassociated mentality from the folks down in sgu.
The problem’s with the bonus program is its not specific to employee groups. And the payout is not enough to worry about. Also with the performance award being based on income generated for the quarter, management can adjust that to what ever number they need. (i.e. prepayment on engine overhauls, purchase of additional equipment etc.).
More money is great, but the fact that they think we are motivated by a couple hundred bucks represents a pretty disassociated mentality from the folks down in sgu.
??? This is all wrong...sounds like you're talking about 401k vesting?
I don't buy airline stock (I don't want another 911 to vaporize my job AND savings) but the stock option thing gives you a 15% discount off the lower of two stock prices during a six month period. You buy the stock, therefore you own it. You can sell it immediately or hang on to it or whatever.
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??? This is all wrong...sounds like you're talking about 401k vesting?
I don't buy airline stock (I don't want another 911 to vaporize my job AND savings) but the stock option thing gives you a 15% discount off the lower of two stock prices during a six month period. You buy the stock, therefore you own it. You can sell it immediately or hang on to it or whatever.
I don't buy airline stock (I don't want another 911 to vaporize my job AND savings) but the stock option thing gives you a 15% discount off the lower of two stock prices during a six month period. You buy the stock, therefore you own it. You can sell it immediately or hang on to it or whatever.
I think what it really is, is the ability to buy the stock at a discount. It is not an option since options have a strike price. Below the strike price worth nothing and above is your profit. Many guys buy the stock through the company discount plan and sell it the same day it is issued and taking their profit and run........
#59
??? This is all wrong...sounds like you're talking about 401k vesting?
I don't buy airline stock (I don't want another 911 to vaporize my job AND savings) but the stock option thing gives you a 15% discount off the lower of two stock prices during a six month period. You buy the stock, therefore you own it. You can sell it immediately or hang on to it or whatever.
I don't buy airline stock (I don't want another 911 to vaporize my job AND savings) but the stock option thing gives you a 15% discount off the lower of two stock prices during a six month period. You buy the stock, therefore you own it. You can sell it immediately or hang on to it or whatever.
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It is NOT capital gains because you did not keep them for a year. You want the capital gain rate (15%) because it is usually lower than the income tax rate pilots pay. Of course if you're a Bro copilot the government probably should be paying you.
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