MasterOfPuppets

Take a snap shot of the non rev list at 1hr prior anyone that moves up to a vacation pass report it to the desk. It is against policy, if the rep won't fix the problem get a supervisor, then report the person who did it to your union reps.

This is not just a regional problem, this happens everyday on mainline flights too. We are fighting a war against the bull**** VAC pass abusers. My understanding is that if you violate policy you can lose your benefits so lets stick it to them.

What we don't need to do is start some mainline VS regional Jump seat/non rev war.

Check Complete

He and his family live in ASE, the UA family were going skiing. The Capt had his family stay with their parents. The UA family lost a night in what was probably a very expensive hotel. The UA dad was furious and one of the kids started crying.

So ya, genius.

I'll do it too, every chance I have!

DashTrash

I am sorry to the regional partners. I was in the Regional Airlines for 10 years and if you fly under a CPA (which all of you do), you are at the mercy of your Mainline partners, except for jump seating. It really sucks, but the only way to keep the vacation pass users in check is to keep tabs on who is listed and their status. Mainline owns the flying (whether or not they own the airplane is immaterial), they are tasked with reservations, ticketing, fuel, gate services, etc. The regional partners bear none of that cost so by definition they have no say in how it is done.

Lambourne

How do you know the united guy didn't own a place in ASE and just went back to his house? So I suppose I need to alert the coconut telegraph to be on the lookout for shenanigans from Skywest pilots and no revs. Enough data from bumped pax perhaps the crosshairs will align. Actions like this will keep you out of the majors. It is a large industry with a small network. Intentionally lying about weight restriction is a chump move. I'm truly not surprised as this is the impression I have gotten from many of the Skywest pilots I've carried in the Jumpseat over the years. Gave up my meal on a transcon to a Skywest guy recently and not even a thank you. If it had been a one off I would have considered it a non-issue. However, I've given many meals, moved them to F on the rare occasion we have an empty seat up there, stored their bags in the cockpit when the bins were full and they had a seat in the back. Never a thank you or any word of appreciation. I won't stop being gracious to jumpseaters because of these guys but it would be nice if the Skywest pilots weren't such children in how they treat others.

CBreezy

I'm sorry. You mean "Mainline" Skywest. They are pretty much like United and Delta.

worstpilotever

Really? Do they teach stupid in ground school at whatever regional you work for or do they just hire stupid?

Check Complete

To a certain degree I see your point but I also disagree too. UA Mainline put in the use of the VACA pass, it was an end game maneuver when the UA pilot group couldn't get priority over the Express group jumpseat. Now all of the UA employees are using it to their advantage. It is at the expense of the Express group employees.

If UA employees want to use it among their employee group on their metal, fine, but it should stop when they go to the Express group.

And as told to me by a UA pilot, the VACA pass is only really used up when the flight is actual mainline. Meaning if a UA employee wants to go from ASE to SFO, they will book all the way to HNL and not get on the last leg of the trip and not get tabbed with the VACA pass they used to trump the Express employee.

The Express employee can't even do that on their own metal, let alone mainline.

The UA employee group do, but shouldn't, have it both ways.

And if I can do ANYTHING about it, I will.

Nevets

But you can't do anything about it.

CBreezy

This. Stop trying to be a hero before we all lose our passes.

cencal83406

The main problem here is that the mainline employee has to waste valuable passes to gain priority. At Delta I believe only one connection carrier gets equal priority / DOH on their metal.

If it says express or connection you really shouldn't have priority for the seats in back. Has that burned me, sure, but that's just life.