UAL Vacation Pass -own metal issues
12-28-2015, 06:48 AM
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As an aside, one of the way regionals reduce costs and undercut each other is by negotiating worse (read cheaper) travel benefits for their employees. This includes reduced priority on the regional partner's own metal.
12-28-2015, 07:03 AM
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I don't think that's a thing. I'm pretty sure all UAX and AE (non WO) carriers have the exact same benefits and priority. Am I wrong?
12-28-2015, 07:07 AM
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This has got to be one of the silliest ****ing-match threads in a while. As RJ pilots working for subcontractors, we're lucky to have any sort of travel benefits AT ALL. **** off the right person with the childish antics, and they can be taken away entirely. Newsflash, if you're a contract RJ pilot, you're going to be pooped on. It's just the nature of the game. Suck it up, serve your time, move on to the major that will have you. Then you can move on up the boarding priority hierarchy.
I've been a lifelong commuter and have been left behind countless times over the years. I've even been bumped under some shady circumstances. Rather than declaring jihad over the boarding priority, I simply move on to plan b,c, etc. Life is way too short to give yourself a stroke over something you have absolutely no control over.
I've been a lifelong commuter and have been left behind countless times over the years. I've even been bumped under some shady circumstances. Rather than declaring jihad over the boarding priority, I simply move on to plan b,c, etc. Life is way too short to give yourself a stroke over something you have absolutely no control over.
12-28-2015, 07:41 AM
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Don't forget every airline has a Jump Seat committee. The majors take jump seating very seriously and have the jump seat committees of other airlines on their speed dials. Almost every single pilot who feels wronged will file a report, myself included. So when United's Jump seat committee calls Mesas Jump seat committee and asks about a certain flight they will call you. If you chose willfully to deny boarding or out of seniority priority based on an agreed upon agreement then you will at least be called by your Chief Pilot and at worst destroy your privileges for the entire airline.
Jump seating and travel passes are a benefit NOT a right, and benefits can be removed at any time. If you don't like how the priority works for your airline then speak to your Jump Seat rep and tell him you want it fixed.
Jump seating and travel passes are a benefit NOT a right, and benefits can be removed at any time. If you don't like how the priority works for your airline then speak to your Jump Seat rep and tell him you want it fixed.
12-28-2015, 08:03 AM
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You're probably not wrong...now. It's only in the recent past that it seems that specific playing field has been leveled. Ask anyone that lived through the vacation pass and buddy pass days and the theft of/changes to those benefits at the hands of Continental and then United management.
12-28-2015, 08:18 AM
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I'm kinda curious how you guys would go over the gate agent's head and apply your "own boarding priority" if you were presented with the situation? Serious question.
12-28-2015, 08:26 AM
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Back when AWAC was under US Airways, employees had to pay $240/year for the full travel benefit package. Guys went nuts over this as Republic, SkyWest, etc never had to pay. Well, come to find out those carriers didn't get near the off airline benefits that AWAC did (like Grand Canyon helicopter tours for $35). So yes, I would say it is a 'thing', as I've experienced it first hand.
12-28-2015, 08:26 AM
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It wouldn't be pretty, probably involve refusing to leave until so and so was on the flight, and who ever else was removed. Something I never would want to actually try.
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