Jumpseat Ethics?
09-22-2015, 10:50 PM
#11
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By you doing that you reward the airline for overselling since they know pilots will take a bullet to get an extra paying passenger on. Unless there's extenuating circumstances (last flight out for the night, pax with family emergency) I won't take the js for paying pax, but I will for non-revs.
I do whatever I can for customer service, but it not only harms us when a pilot or fa does that, but it harms the pax long term also since the airline will be more likely to oversell more. It's beneficial for literally everyone but the airline's shareholders to keep your DH seat.
I do whatever I can for customer service, but it not only harms us when a pilot or fa does that, but it harms the pax long term also since the airline will be more likely to oversell more. It's beneficial for literally everyone but the airline's shareholders to keep your DH seat.
09-23-2015, 02:32 AM
#12
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I'll almost never take the jumpseat on a DH. It gives the company leverage ("Well they took the jumpseat this many times, why can't they do it all the time..?"). It also hurts commuters. Naturally I would never take it if there is someone in uniform lingering around 
The only situation I give up a seat in the back to make room for non-crew is if there is only ONE person trying to get on. Last time this happened was when I got a last minute DH on a full late night flight. Kept my seat til the last minute to make sure no commuters were coming, then gave it to the paying passenger and sat up front.
If I did this when there's like 5 oversold and 10 non-revs I feel like I'd be deadheading up front half the time, so I simply don't in that situation. Maybe just my messed up logic idk...
The only situation I give up a seat in the back to make room for non-crew is if there is only ONE person trying to get on. Last time this happened was when I got a last minute DH on a full late night flight. Kept my seat til the last minute to make sure no commuters were coming, then gave it to the paying passenger and sat up front.
If I did this when there's like 5 oversold and 10 non-revs I feel like I'd be deadheading up front half the time, so I simply don't in that situation. Maybe just my messed up logic idk...
09-23-2015, 04:07 AM
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The same consequences for those wonderful CAs who allow the DH to bump a commutter, that's what they should be. Even if you're trying to be friendly about it, just like the captain you encountered, it's just wrong.
09-23-2015, 04:14 AM
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New Hire
As a new hire needing to commute to work (LGA-ORD) is there a guide to J/S ettiequte.. No doubt i'll get some insight in training, but if you could write a couple of Golden Rules, what would they be?
09-23-2015, 04:17 AM
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09-23-2015, 04:35 AM
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so to extend this question, here's a scenario I deal with often. Company books me for a deadhead home on Airline A at 8pm, but there's a flight on Airline B 2 hours sooner. Is it ok to jump on Airline B even though you have a paid ticket somewhere else? I've done this several times but always with the personal policy that I'd never bump another guy out of the JS; even if I'd win priority I'd give it up and go take my confirmed seat later.
09-23-2015, 06:24 AM
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so to extend this question, here's a scenario I deal with often. Company books me for a deadhead home on Airline A at 8pm, but there's a flight on Airline B 2 hours sooner. Is it ok to jump on Airline B even though you have a paid ticket somewhere else? I've done this several times but always with the personal policy that I'd never bump another guy out of the JS; even if I'd win priority I'd give it up and go take my confirmed seat later.
You're doing yourself a favor, you are using the jump to your personal betterment, which to me is what it's for, not the company.
But I'd also look around to make sure a fellow pilot isn't trying to GET to work and go from there, which I think you alluded to in your post.
09-23-2015, 06:42 AM
#18
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To me, I'd say it's ok.
You're doing yourself a favor, you are using the jump to your personal betterment, which to me is what it's for, not the company.
But I'd also look around to make sure a fellow pilot isn't trying to GET to work and go from there, which I think you alluded to in your post.
You're doing yourself a favor, you are using the jump to your personal betterment, which to me is what it's for, not the company.
But I'd also look around to make sure a fellow pilot isn't trying to GET to work and go from there, which I think you alluded to in your post.
09-23-2015, 06:59 AM
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Management, managers ...have no ethics.
I have seen time and time again Line Pilots become management and some how totally become brain washed.
Funny thing is when they return to the line can't figure out why everyone gives them funny looks.
I'm not saying this about every line pilot or chief pilot, but I've seen a lot of it over the years.
I have seen time and time again Line Pilots become management and some how totally become brain washed.
Funny thing is when they return to the line can't figure out why everyone gives them funny looks.
I'm not saying this about every line pilot or chief pilot, but I've seen a lot of it over the years.
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