Undermining the profession yet again ?
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So, because you disagree with the validity of the topic (or more likely dislike the member who started it), you demand it closed. Gotcha.
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Professionals in any other industry in the world are able to take their experience and pay to new companies. Why should pilots be any different? This is (finally) a GREAT thing for our profession and long over due. Keep in mind this would be for PAY only. A newhire would still be "year one" when it comes to bidding, but they would bring with them their current pay.
There is no problem here except for the one that exists in eagelfly's twisted mind. And in any case, this isn't official yet. Still a few details to iron out....but if/when this is rolled out at Envoy you can be sure it will be a watershed moment for the airline industry.
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Follow this idea to it's ultimate conclusion: If one airline does this, then others will follow suit as the limited supply of pilots jumps from one airline to another. Soon, they'll be almost no one at first year pay unless fresh out of CFI university. RJ's become increasingly expensive to operate thus sending more flying back to MAINLINE. More RJ CA's get hired at said mainlines, more RJ FO's upgrade, etc.
So you're saying you don't want RJ pilots to move on to mainline jobs? Way to look out for their career. You're a real savior!
This idea is a pipedream anyways. I doubt management will sign off on it as long as they can fill classes with 1 year pay new hires. Maybe once that pool truly dries up, they will float this idea.
Topic aside, your reputation is well known on other message boards. You have nothing good to say about envoy or it's union.
Ever.
You're pretty smart and write very skillfully but you have a one track mind and one goal: to watch envoy fail and our union reps with it.
This entire industry is a pyramid/Ponzi scheme. People don't upgrade without new hires to replace them. People don't get off reserve without people to take their place below them.
Get a life, TL.
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Validity of topic? You're argument is purely against envoy pilots. All of the sudden RP pilots are who you are trying to protect? Your concern is laughable. You don't give a rats *** about RP pilots or any other regional pilot. You simply want to watch envoy burn.
Follow this idea to it's ultimate conclusion: If one airline does this, then others will follow suit as the limited supply of pilots jumps from one airline to another. Soon, they'll be almost no one at first year pay unless fresh out of CFI university. RJ's become increasingly expensive to operate thus sending more flying back to MAINLINE. More RJ CA's get hired at said mainlines, more RJ FO's upgrade, etc.
So you're saying you don't want RJ pilots to move on to mainline jobs? Way to look out for their career. You're a real savior!
This idea is a pipedream anyways. I doubt management will sign off on it as long as they can fill classes with 1 year pay new hires. Maybe once that pool truly dries up, they will float this idea.
Topic aside, your reputation is well known on other message boards. You have nothing good to say about envoy or it's union.
Ever.
You're pretty smart and write very skillfully but you have a one track mind and one goal: to watch envoy fail and our union reps with it.
This entire industry is a pyramid/Ponzi scheme. People don't upgrade without new hires to replace them. People don't get off reserve without people to take their place below them.
Follow this idea to it's ultimate conclusion: If one airline does this, then others will follow suit as the limited supply of pilots jumps from one airline to another. Soon, they'll be almost no one at first year pay unless fresh out of CFI university. RJ's become increasingly expensive to operate thus sending more flying back to MAINLINE. More RJ CA's get hired at said mainlines, more RJ FO's upgrade, etc.
So you're saying you don't want RJ pilots to move on to mainline jobs? Way to look out for their career. You're a real savior!
This idea is a pipedream anyways. I doubt management will sign off on it as long as they can fill classes with 1 year pay new hires. Maybe once that pool truly dries up, they will float this idea.
Topic aside, your reputation is well known on other message boards. You have nothing good to say about envoy or it's union.
Ever.
You're pretty smart and write very skillfully but you have a one track mind and one goal: to watch envoy fail and our union reps with it.
This entire industry is a pyramid/Ponzi scheme. People don't upgrade without new hires to replace them. People don't get off reserve without people to take their place below them.
I can (and do) argue against that.
Thanks for the advice, I'll take it under advisement. Of course, you may want to reconsider discussion/debate with someone you feel has no "life" in the future as wouldn't that seem kind of silly to do ?
Best of luck to you.
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That's better than PSA's "offer" (or letter to ALPA saying we should be sent with the planes, against our will, language which only applied in a merger situation, lol) to take our pilots with our planes...as a staple.
You happen to write a multiple paragraph protest against that one?
Ha, lame...
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Undermining the profession yet again ?
That's not true! He wants everyone to watch him watching envoy burn. It's all about him and everyone paying attention to him, so I guess in one sense you are right... He does care about all the other pilots, he wants to ensure everyone knows how stupid they've all been.
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