Lvlng4Spd

Oh that makes sense lol. That rumor has been rolling around for like 15 years, and now it couldn't be further from the truth. Different fleet plans and vastly different contracts. Three WO's is what AAG wants, one CRJ operator, one E175 operator, and one E145 operator, for now. We become the wholly-owned triforce and will start flying more and more RAH, AWAC, TSA routes for AA. In-house flying, more control...it's good and bad for us as pilots, but that is what they want.

billyho

Poor PSA! They are already realizing that our new hires will flow to American before half of there current pilot group.

But you didn't hear that from me.

Lvlng4Spd

They are starting to make their way over...the smart ones anyway. We need a new slogan...Piedmont, the Smart Choice! Oh...wait...damn you Air Woosterschnitzen!

sublime259

Ummm, what? If growth stops at PDT, doesn't that affect your flow numbers? Also, how is PDT's flow much faster then envoy's?

You're starting to sound like FirstClass and spewing things out as fact without providing any proof. While I'm known as an "envoy cheerleader" I'm happy to say I don't have to lie to prospective applicants. I've always told the good, the bad, and the ugly unlike a lot of you.

RyanP

Keep dreaming. You really think they are giving you our jets and setting up that whole program as training wheels just so they can start all over again and get bigger one's later? lol. You aren't getting 175's unless you get merged with Envoy. Why would they do everything, and spend all the $$$ to get them set up on our certificate, with the options placed here already after our initial 40.. then waste all that time/money all over again for Piedmont to get them too? Unless you guys plan on signing some PSA type backstabbing deal it isn't happening. Plus, have you seen the scope limitations AA is bumping up against for more 175's or 900's? Pretty much any more would be coming at the expense of something else..

and how exactly is your flow going to be "much" faster than Envoy's at only 4/5 month or whatever if your growth stops? Who cares if we are bigger, we flow a much larger number every month and our pilot group is getting smaller. The flow is pretty even..

Yeah, you are right.. we shouldn't compare Envoy to Piedmont. Envoy has an all jet fleet with over 2000 pilots still. Piedmont has around 400 pilots and ZERO jets transferred to date. Only promises.. AA has been delaying our transfers and awarding more flying to Envoy every month since we can actually staff it and are already current and qualified in the airplanes... not saying they won't "eventually" be transferred, with big delays.. but thinking you are getting 175's too is ridiculous.

billyho

First off where the hell did I say Piedmont's Flow was faster then Envoys?? If Piedmonts growth stops that's even better for everyone in terms of flow! Are you dumb or something?? Piedmont is NO WHERE near the size of Envoy you nerd and that's our flow advantage! hahahahahahahah Lordy Lordy!

billyho

I'm sorry for calling you an dumb. Not cool! I'll just pat you on the head and let you go run outside and play little fella. :-)

QuagmireGiggity

We will retire a little over 5000 by 2025. (Out of about 10300).
Even older group at USair.
If you are have your ducks in order get some PIC fast and get hired fast.
If you really want to live in AA base it may be worth it to go Envoy/PDT but could be a sacrifice of future seniority.

billyho

You'll upgrade in less then a Year at Piedmont. What's your point???

billyho

Where did I say YOUR 175's!! You guys are trigger happy! hahahahah