Outof410

That sucks, I am in contract at my company until this time next year.

I know its slightly far out, but what will it look like this time next year?

waker92

That sounds good. Exactly what I'd want to hear! Thanks for the info But I got to play devils advocate here and ask if anyone can discredit this. (Heard a lot on here that's too good to be true).

What I'm really saying is that's the dirt on Piedmont? What's the deterrent? It seems like most places have something that drives people away... What is that for PDT?

Don't want to bash here but just trying to get a comprehensive outlook!

Justadude

How many legs does a peidmont crew do in any given day? JW.

RyanP

If things stay good and flow is moving? Not that big a deal.. Assuming hiring 20/mo that is 80 guys.. could be more, could be less..

If things stagnate for some reason 80 guys is HUGE. I know for me (being awarded CA 3 times then downgraded 2 of those times due to being right on the edge of senior FO/junior CA for a couple years during Bankruptcy times.. 80 guys was the difference in probably well over $50K lost for me, probably more.. I am still ****ed off I didn't take my original 2 month earlier class date I had when I started years ago.. my time here, and time remaining would have been much better off.

Seniority is everything. The difference between weekends off, or a crap schedule, or not upgrading for a long time can be determined by 80 guys easily..

I wouldn't blow a bunch of money to get there quicker, but do whatever you can to get the absolute first class date possible, wherever you go...

I have a friend that is only 17 numbers senior to me. He gets what he wants with bids, day off schedules and Reserve requests.. (we bid the same things) I get pretty much nothing I want. Ever. Wishing I was just 18 numbers senior nearly every day at work when we bid for things. Lol.

Your whole airline career will be like this with seniority. Another friend of mine is pi$$ed because after all these years of waiting as an FO, He is having a baby, really needs the money.. and just missed the Captain upgrade by 1 single number. That one number will probably cost him about $7K in lost after tax earnings if the next upgrade award is 3 months later..

Theaveragejoker

The biggest Piedmont complaints are aircraft type (prop) and bases. The 145 and PHL base are solving that. Older complains are training department too tough... Well, they are training future AA pilots so cowboy up! And last, stagnation of the company, with the new aircraft and flow, the lists are moving steadily.
PDT will look like a mini Envoy and AA will have its WO companies flowing at a roughly equal rate. The Envoy-PDT decision will come down to base preference, but right this minute and for a couple months PDT guys will upgrade quicker and flow quicker because of all the growth planned for PDT.

FirstClass

Three new guys posting in a row.

FlameNSky

Sorry

PDTpilotXX

Our schedules suck and the dash is old old old... Fun to fly but they are very much showing their age.

Great crews.
Rumors of great PHL schedules... They'd better be...
Great new President. Lyle Hogg. Google him.
Growing and The most solid flow deal out there. Envoys is good as well.

PDTpilotXX

If pilots keep coming, we've been told very plainly we will keep getting planes and grow. Hopefully we're staffing for an additional 50 jets by then.

We've known all along they want 3 airlines of similar size. If that holds true you'll still be in good shape for a fast upgrade qualifying you for the other legacies with the flow in your back pocket just in case.

RyanP

A bright Piedmont future of fleet growth based on old, worn out, used and increasingly unviable/unwanted 50 seat 145's (that haven't even been transferred from Envoy yet) is more of a gamble than going to Envoy I would think.. Seems like Envoy is increasing block hours every month and delaying transfers already to others now since we have the staffing to do the flying.

I have no problem with Piedmont.. but just an observation.