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Old 09-12-2015, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by gojo
And why not? Please elaborate
DL has three carriers that operate CRJ200s. Endeavor, SkyWest and ExpressJet. The reset claims SkyWest and ExpressJet have to match the second lowest price. So, worst case scenario, all Inc has to do is match SkyWest to ExpressJet or vice-versa.

The same holds true for CRJ700s but dicier with the CRJ900s (Endeavor, GoJet, SkyWest and ExpressJet). Which is all very moot because SkyWest owns the majority of the aircraft in question. At this point in the game, which regional is going to step in and replace the two largest regional airlines in the world that make up the overwhelming majority of Delta Connection flights?

Also, as I understand the wording of the rate reset, the reset should have taken place on Sept. 8, 2015 for rates ranging from Jan. 1, 2016 to Dec. 31, 2020. So if something were happening with all that, you've have heard about it by now.
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Old 09-12-2015, 08:17 AM
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Delta has SkyWest, Inc. by the balls? Please elaborate for the rest of the class.
If you couldn't comprehend what I was saying to the other guy in regards to his post, explaining anything to you would be a waste of time.
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Old 09-12-2015, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by IBPilot
They can do whatever they want with any of their code share partners. They have them all by the balls.
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If you couldn't comprehend what I was saying to the other guy in regards to his post, explaining anything to you would be a waste of time.
Cool, thank you for the clarification.
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Old 09-12-2015, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by NVUS
DL has three carriers that operate CRJ200s. Endeavor, SkyWest and ExpressJet. The reset claims SkyWest and ExpressJet have to match the second lowest price. So, worst case scenario, all Inc has to do is match SkyWest to ExpressJet or vice-versa.

The same holds true for CRJ700s but dicier with the CRJ900s (Endeavor, GoJet, SkyWest and ExpressJet). Which is all very moot because SkyWest owns the majority of the aircraft in question. At this point in the game, which regional is going to step in and replace the two largest regional airlines in the world that make up the overwhelming majority of Delta Connection flights?

Also, as I understand the wording of the rate reset, the reset should have taken place on Sept. 8, 2015 for rates ranging from Jan. 1, 2016 to Dec. 31, 2020. So if something were happening with all that, you've have heard about it by now.
50 seat lift includes Shuttle also.
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Old 09-12-2015, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by gojo
50 seat lift includes Shuttle also.
For now. Should they some how end up in Chapter 11, you can be darn sure that's the first flying the bedford show tries to drop.
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Old 09-12-2015, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by KSCessnaDriver
For now. Should they some how end up in Chapter 11, you can be darn sure that's the first flying the bedford show tries to drop.
I can see that happening. That's why airlines take the bankruptcy route
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Old 09-12-2015, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by gojo
50 seat lift includes Shuttle also.
Shuttle would have already have been locked in on their price during the last reset round in 2013. Delta extended the contract which means they are still paying the same price. There's nothing to match there that hasn't already been accounted for. Plus we're talking an E-145 and not a CRJ200.

SkyWest Inc - The Delta Connection Agreements also provide that, beginning with the fifth anniversary of the execution of the agreements (September 8, 2010), Delta has the right to require that certain contractual rates under those agreements shall not exceed the second lowest of all carriers within the Delta Connection program. During the fourth quarter of 2010, SkyWest Airlines and Atlantic Southeast reached an agreement with Delta on contractual rates satisfying the 2010 rate reset provision and the second-lowest rate provision and agreed to rates through December 31, 2015. Delta additionally waived its right to require that the contractual rates payable under the Delta Connection Agreements shall not exceed the second-lowest rates of all carriers within the Delta Connection program through December 31, 2015.

And regarding Compass, Mesaba and Colgan: The contract also calls for rates to be reset in 2013 and 2018, similar to Pinnacle’s CRJ-200 contract.
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Old 09-12-2015, 09:45 AM
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Wholly owned don't apply to the rate reset.
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Old 09-12-2015, 09:47 AM
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Wholly owned don't apply to the rate reset.
And regarding Compass, Mesaba and Colgan: The contract also calls for rates to be reset in 2013 and 2018, similar to Pinnacle’s CRJ-200 contract.

Obviously two of these airlines don't exist anymore, but I was pointing out that the other rate reset for the other carriers was back in 2013. That's given SkyWest, Inc. 2 years to plan for any possible reduction in income.
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And regarding Compass, Mesaba and Colgan: The contract also calls for rates to be reset in 2013 and 2018, similar to Pinnacle’s CRJ-200 contract.

Obviously two of these airlines don't exist anymore, but I was pointing out that the other rate reset for the other carriers was back in 2013. That's given SkyWest, Inc. 2 years to plan for any possible reduction in income.
Sorry, was generally addressing the room, not your specific comment.
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