$100,000 Minimum Regional First Officer
08-16-2015, 09:19 AM
#81
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Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it...
To this day, if you are a regional pilot, you are considered a second class citizen by both your union and your fellow mainline "brothers". To this day, the mainline MECs take a bargaining credit by allowing the cheap regional feed to exist. That leaves more money for the "real" mainline pilots to bargain for.
Some day, you to can become a real pilot and be respected by your union and your colleagues....
To this day, if you are a regional pilot, you are considered a second class citizen by both your union and your fellow mainline "brothers". To this day, the mainline MECs take a bargaining credit by allowing the cheap regional feed to exist. That leaves more money for the "real" mainline pilots to bargain for.
Some day, you to can become a real pilot and be respected by your union and your colleagues....
08-16-2015, 09:23 AM
#82
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Exactly. As soon as mainline pilots treat us as EQUALS, then we can go somewhere. However they are still living in the past and treating us as inferior. You work for a Delta wholly owned carrier that flies Delta owned aircraft. Yet you have to "interview" to find out if you too can become the "best of the best". I rest my case....
08-16-2015, 09:32 AM
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Exactly. As soon as mainline pilots treat us as EQUALS, then we can go somewhere. However they are still living in the past and treating us as inferior. You work for a Delta wholly owned carrier that flies Delta owned aircraft. Yet you have to "interview" to find out if you too can become the "best of the best". I rest my case....
08-16-2015, 09:40 AM
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08-16-2015, 09:49 AM
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EXACTLY! They are "living in the past", which is "fostering hate" and "taking us nowhere". As soon as they want to treat everyone the same, then we can move forward...
08-16-2015, 11:15 AM
#86
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The pay gap between mainline, and the regionals has widened over the last years so far, that regional pay could more than triple, and still be cost effective for management. Mainline pay is about 4% of revenue, regional pay is less than 1%, historically pilot pay has been 10%-15% of revenue.
08-16-2015, 11:24 AM
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Still won't happen. It's an entry level job and always has been. But as others have already mentioned, it's a contractual feed job so someone will always do it for less. You want 100k for a first year RJ FO, someone will do it for 90k. Then another for 80k. Rinse, repeat. There is no "unity" when you look at the collective airline pilot group. Individual groups? Yeah maybe. But as a collective? 0 unity, sell outs, do what's best for you and only you. An unfortunate byproduct of the seniority system. Get that number and get that number fast. The quicker the better. To that end, the regionals know it and take advantage.
08-16-2015, 11:38 AM
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