FirstClass

United American and Delta abide by the RLA, why are they better off?

Paid2fly

Categorically untrue, but please feel free to make up any lies necessary to justify PSA and PDT selling out the industry.

billyho

What's untrue???? Do you not realize that mainline carriers farmed out their regional flying to the lowest bidder?? Are you new to this industry??


As for me justifying Piedmont (which is the only one I can talk about) I honestly don't care what anyone thinks. We did what WE felt was good for US! Just like every airline has there choices. Carry on everyone.

sublime259

Basically it got billy that multi-million dollar mainline job that he wouldn't have gotten otherwise, so he "doesn't really care" what you think. Did I get that right?

Btw, I just love hearing you guys say "I don't care what you think of us" it really helps your case!!!

sublime259

I just can't wth this child anymore, someone else is going to have to hold his hand.

Paid2fly

Far from new... The untrue part "You can't do that when every regional at some point has sold the other out".

billyho

Well name some that haven't.

Paid2fly

Are you new to this industry? From the enormous amount of time you spend on here, not even sure if you're really a part of it.


Horizon, Air Wisconsin, Skywest, ASA, etc.

billyho

Mainline carriers care about one thing and that's cost. Sure AWAC for example is a great airline with a good contract and great pilot group. Do you see any Mainline carriers lined up to sign them? Nope, because their cost are too High. United asked them to take cuts to be in line with other regionals in there network. Who knows what would've happened had they not jumped in to help bail US Airways out of Bankruptcy and secured there long term deal.
That Contract is about to end now and they'll be competing for more flying.
Horizon is now being asked to take cuts to compete with SkyWest.
Do I agree with it???? Hell no, but it's how it has been for a long time. Piedmont held the line for many years being one the of top paying Prop Airlines with one of the best contracts and an actual retirement plan. What did it get them???? Nothing but going from 100 planes down to know like 35 planes.
If anyone thinks the regionals can be a career stop like it was for many years you're wrong. Get your time, upgrade and get the hell out because it's all about cost and if you're at a senior heavy airline operating 50 seat planes you might be looking at many issues down the road.
The regionals will be something to watch over then next couple of years.

billyho

Hahahahahah lets see Horizon is now having to compete with SkyWest cost and SkyWest is also trying to get ASA (expressjets) cost down. hahahahah About the only one I'd say has been a good player in all this is AWAC .

It's called being senior enough to get the time off and watch NBA basketball while laughing at people like you. It's all good. :-)