Regional or not?
#12
I guess unique was maybe not the best wording. What I mean is that I have a lot of TT, but not a lot of FW. I'm kinda at the point where I don't really want to start at the ground zero level on the FW side. I would think that 2000hrs of RW time I would know a few things about navigating, communicating, etc that would transfer over to a FW job.
#13
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2015
Posts: 113
I guess unique was maybe not the best wording. What I mean is that I have a lot of TT, but not a lot of FW. I'm kinda at the point where I don't really want to start at the ground zero level on the FW side. I would think that 2000hrs of RW time I would know a few things about navigating, communicating, etc that would transfer over to a FW job.
Furthermore, there are many on this thread who had twice that total time who, in the years following 9/11, would have given their right wing nut just to get a CFI job. And even more, who were not even qualified to apply for a regional job until they had 3000TT/500 ME PIC.
If you served our county and earned you RW time flying for the military, then I apologize...and thank you for your service. If you earned your RW time flying life flight missions, risking your life to save the lives of others, then I apologize...thank you for your bravery. If you earned you RW time in any law enforcement capacity...God bless you, and good luck!
But if you earned your 2250tt flying traffic watch, pipeline patrol, flight instructing, Grand Canyon tours, etc, may I invite you to start at ground zero, pay your dues, and get in the back of the line with the rest of us that are still paying ours!
#14
I wouldn't necessarily call 2250 hours a lot of time, sir. There are thousands of guys with way more time than that who have spent years in the regionals, captains and fo's, all of whom started at ground zero, who would give their left wing nut to fly for Netjets.
Furthermore, there are many on this thread who had twice that total time who, in the years following 9/11, would have given their right wing nut just to get a CFI job. And even more, who were not even qualified to apply for a regional job until they had 3000TT/500 ME PIC.
If you served our county and earned you RW time flying for the military, then I apologize...and thank you for your service. If you earned your RW time flying life flight missions, risking your life to save the lives of others, then I apologize...thank you for your bravery. If you earned you RW time in any law enforcement capacity...God bless you, and good luck!
But if you earned your 2250tt flying traffic watch, pipeline patrol, flight instructing, Grand Canyon tours, etc, may I invite you to start at ground zero, pay your dues, and get in the back of the line with the rest of us that are still paying ours!
Furthermore, there are many on this thread who had twice that total time who, in the years following 9/11, would have given their right wing nut just to get a CFI job. And even more, who were not even qualified to apply for a regional job until they had 3000TT/500 ME PIC.
If you served our county and earned you RW time flying for the military, then I apologize...and thank you for your service. If you earned your RW time flying life flight missions, risking your life to save the lives of others, then I apologize...thank you for your bravery. If you earned you RW time in any law enforcement capacity...God bless you, and good luck!
But if you earned your 2250tt flying traffic watch, pipeline patrol, flight instructing, Grand Canyon tours, etc, may I invite you to start at ground zero, pay your dues, and get in the back of the line with the rest of us that are still paying ours!
I am sorry if I came across as being obnoxious or sounding like I don't want to pay my dues.
I understand fully what it's like to spend long days teaching students and trying to get one more rung up the ladder.
There are several reasons I want to fly FW, the biggest is probably the safety aspect, then money, and lastly is because I enjoy flying in the IFR environment which I don't get to do often.
I have been told that some of these NetJets, Delta Private Jets, etc...are counting peoples helicopter time, and also may be hiring some with ATP minimums. So I was trying to figure out if by going to a regional, and adding another 800 or so multi hours and putting TT over 3k would make me more competitive. Or of I should go find a freight outfit or something.
#15
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Joined APC: Jun 2015
Posts: 3,001
I was not prior military, but started out as a CFI, then flew a short stint doing tours. After that I flew law enforcement missions, and have now spend the last 4yrs flying EMS. I understand that my time may not be a lot compared to guys in the FW world, but flying EMS you don't get a lot of hours.
I am sorry if I came across as being obnoxious or sounding like I don't want to pay my dues.
I understand fully what it's like to spend long days teaching students and trying to get one more rung up the ladder.
There are several reasons I want to fly FW, the biggest is probably the safety aspect, then money, and lastly is because I enjoy flying in the IFR environment which I don't get to do often.
I have been told that some of these NetJets, Delta Private Jets, etc...are counting peoples helicopter time, and also may be hiring some with ATP minimums. So I was trying to figure out if by going to a regional, and adding another 800 or so multi hours and putting TT over 3k would make me more competitive. Or of I should go find a freight outfit or something.
I am sorry if I came across as being obnoxious or sounding like I don't want to pay my dues.
I understand fully what it's like to spend long days teaching students and trying to get one more rung up the ladder.
There are several reasons I want to fly FW, the biggest is probably the safety aspect, then money, and lastly is because I enjoy flying in the IFR environment which I don't get to do often.
I have been told that some of these NetJets, Delta Private Jets, etc...are counting peoples helicopter time, and also may be hiring some with ATP minimums. So I was trying to figure out if by going to a regional, and adding another 800 or so multi hours and putting TT over 3k would make me more competitive. Or of I should go find a freight outfit or something.
#16
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2005
Position: RJ Captain
Posts: 1,181
A year or so at a regional could give you a type rating and 800+ fixed wing hours that would help out your resume a lot. Frankly, your lack of fixed wing time hurts you a lot right now, and if the regionals weren't desperate for pilots it might make it hard to even get a job at one of them.
#17
Thanks guys, like I said, Im not trying to come off as entitled or not wanting to pay dues, I understand all to well how that goes. The job I have now is good, Im just ready for a change. Frankly, Im not sure if EMS will be around in its current capacity by the time Im ready to retire 30yrs from now, just too much nonessential flying being done for the insurance companies to keep paying for.
So, I want to fly for a fractional outfit, simply because I like the 8/6 or 7/7 because that is what I work now, and my family is used to that type of schedule. I realize that a major gig will ultimately pay more, but living where we do, its a 2hr drive to any major airport, so I will be commuting for my whole career at a place that will not allow home basing like the fractionals do.
I am going to apply at some of these places and see what happens, but I doubt seriously they will take me right now, thats why I thought by going to a regional, which seems to be the only place I can get on lol, I would better my chances greatly of being qualified for a fractional job. Thanks for the good info guys, it seems some of you realize where Im coming from!
So, I want to fly for a fractional outfit, simply because I like the 8/6 or 7/7 because that is what I work now, and my family is used to that type of schedule. I realize that a major gig will ultimately pay more, but living where we do, its a 2hr drive to any major airport, so I will be commuting for my whole career at a place that will not allow home basing like the fractionals do.
I am going to apply at some of these places and see what happens, but I doubt seriously they will take me right now, thats why I thought by going to a regional, which seems to be the only place I can get on lol, I would better my chances greatly of being qualified for a fractional job. Thanks for the good info guys, it seems some of you realize where Im coming from!
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