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Old 05-19-2015, 10:19 AM
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Wasting time blaming others doesn't help anyone's position. There will always be guys stuck at the commuters as FO's for a long time.

You know the game, and know how to play it. Don't let that be you. Let the guys who complain on here about their situations, doing little about it, have that honor.
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Old 05-21-2015, 05:19 AM
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Still no clarification from PSAJOBS. For those of you looking to gather info this should be rather telling. PSAJOBS is clearly a representative of management tasked with spreading rainbows and sunshine over the internet to help with recruiting efforts. I believe she originally said she was here to answer questions about PSA. Yet when faced with the harsh truth and tough questions PSAJOBS has no answer. PSAJOBS is not a line pilot, so how valuable is her opinion on the subject? Ask the pilots if you want to know what its like to fly for PSA.
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Old 05-21-2015, 05:38 AM
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Still no clarification from PSAJOBS. For those of you looking to gather info this should be rather telling. PSAJOBS is clearly a representative of management tasked with spreading rainbows and sunshine over the internet to help with recruiting efforts. I believe she originally said she was here to answer questions about PSA. Yet when faced with the harsh truth and tough questions PSAJOBS has no answer. PSAJOBS is not a line pilot, so how valuable is her opinion on the subject? Ask the pilots if you want to know what its like to fly for PSA.
Ask away. 6 month upgrades and 3 new airplanes per month make for exciting times around here. It's a good time to be a PSA pilot. Nothing lasts forever so get in while its good.
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Old 05-21-2015, 05:41 AM
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First, I agree that the 16 year contract insulated American Eagle (Envoy) from the Regional market for too much for too long. Too many of our pilots as a result became disconnected to the realities around them which in turn led to the absolute nonsense we saw in 2014 when 70% of Envoy pilots rejected a perfectly good contract under the premise of "Nobody else can staff". PSA didn't make Envoy vote NO to that contract and in so far as that goes Envoy has nobody to blame but themselves.
We have sent more than 50% of new hire classes to AA the past several months. If we had a huge hard number fleet plan; do you think we'd have sent 66% instead of 50% recently? No, we'd ALWAYS get only the minimum.
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Old 05-21-2015, 05:45 AM
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We have sent more than 50% of new hire classes to AA the past several months. If we had a huge hard number fleet plan; do you think we'd have sent 66% instead of 50% recently? No, we'd ALWAYS get only the minimum.
That's only because of Envoy's shrink and furlough plan. They don't want to lose all the pilots before you guys have to shutdown.

Do us all the favor and at least admit that as you shrink, your labor costs go higher since the top 300 can't or won't be moving on.
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Old 05-21-2015, 06:25 AM
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That's only because of Envoy's shrink and furlough plan. They don't want to lose all the pilots before you guys have to shutdown.

Do us all the favor and at least admit that as you shrink, your labor costs go higher since the top 300 can't or won't be moving on.
Youre full steam into moronvillenthis morning kiddo. Are going full troll now? Don't go full troll. You aren't very good at it. You need to be more subtle. Using bait like "envoy closing down(which is stupid) is not subtle enough. I'll give you a few points for the 300 lifers part, though it is more like 217.
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Old 05-21-2015, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by FirstClass
Ask away. 6 month upgrades and 3 new airplanes per month make for exciting times around here. It's a good time to be a PSA pilot. Nothing lasts forever so get in while its good.
Let me know how many airplanes you get next month.
You have 1200 pilots. Adding any more is just filling up your FO ranks. A pilot can do that at any regional right now and see a decent upgrade. The good thing is over. Trying to rope in others based on false info is wrong. May God have mercy on your soul!
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Old 05-21-2015, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotCrusader
Youre full steam into moronvillenthis morning kiddo. Are going full troll now? Don't go full troll. You aren't very good at it. You need to be more subtle. Using bait like "envoy closing down(which is stupid) is not subtle enough. I'll give you a few points for the 300 lifers part, though it is more like 217.
I spanked you so hard yesterday I cannot believe you are back. Your enthusiasm is promising, but your humor, originality, and timing are all wrong.
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Old 05-21-2015, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotCrusader
Let me know how many airplanes you get next month.
You have 1200 pilots. Adding any more is just filling up your FO ranks. A pilot can do that at any regional right now and see a decent upgrade. The good thing is over. Trying to rope in others based on false info is wrong. May God have mercy on your soul!
The first airplane is already here so I don't know what you are babbling about.
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Old 05-21-2015, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by FirstClass
Ask away. 6 month upgrades and 3 new airplanes per month make for exciting times around here. It's a good time to be a PSA pilot. Nothing lasts forever so get in while its good.
What seniority do the most junior CA line holders have? About 3+ years depending on the base. How long will will the 6 month CAs be on reserve especially as FOs senior to them get their 1000 121 time and upgrade keeping them at the bottom of the CA list? Probably quite a while. Reserve at PSA results in a very poor QOL. Most of the new hires either got a line out of training or sat reserve for a week or two. They will be in for a pleasant surprise when they have to sit reserve for an extended period of time. The guys who got hired 1-1.5 years ago had excellent timing and will make out very well. Not so much for those getting hired now, depending on what their goals are.
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