No, dummy, RA pay is NOT "Capitalism"

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05-08-2015, 08:26 AM

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tom11011

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Originally Posted by bozobigtop

Assuming mainline carriers can make money operating from small cities point to point in which I highly doubt. If I am paying non-stop I expect non-stop service no If, and, or but! Hub and spoke systems are based on cheap labor, and other cost savings.

Their business model is not your concern or your problem. They pay us to fly airplanes. They pay bean counters to count beans. They pay planners to plan.

The original poster says its not capitalism, but its not true. Company wants to pay a certain rate. There is a group of pilots who agree with that rate and fly the airplanes. It's just that simple. Pilot shortage is a direct result of capitalism working as its supposed to. The company wants to pay a certain rate but there is not enough pilots for a variety of reason to satisfy their need for pilots. What to do?

05-08-2015, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Avroman

Price the cost to charter a Lear or Hawker and then price the cost of an airline ticket and then revisit this statement.

I would prefer to charter since I used to fly jet charters. The service is different from airline service as day is to night.

05-08-2015, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by grkero

That was bugging the living crap out me.

Public school system byproduct

05-08-2015, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by grkero

That was bugging the living crap out me.

Me, too. Especially because it was repeated so many times.

05-08-2015, 10:58 AM

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So you call out 2 companies for giving bonuses but you forget that most of the regionals are doing it such as SkyWest, Endeavor. Others are doing things like CQFO as a carrot. Almost all regionals are currently doing something to break status quo just my 2 cents.

05-08-2015, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by SayAlt

This is such an outstanding post it deserves it's own thread and should be pinned to the top of this forum for quick reference...

What airline are you at because chances are they are doing something above and beyond to get butts in the seats.

05-08-2015, 12:19 PM

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05-08-2015, 12:39 PM

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Cool populist rant right up until the first paragraph where he spews forth major pilots are paid above market levels. Crack a history book once in a while and come back and try again without the Occupy crap.

Yes regional pay needs to come up. It is, but not as fast as it should. In any case regionals should be gutted by legacy scope anyway long before outsourced lift provider pay gets to where it needs to be.

05-08-2015, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mpet

I don't disagree grandpa; gut those outsourced regionals by reclaiming the very scope YOU GAVE UP.

The regionals are the only way major airline pilots can gauge themselves professionally. They get to turn their noses up to the regional pilot as he passes by in the concourses only to log onto the forums and hand down life lessons, all while keeping completely silent in your jumpseat. They may beat their wives, wear white sneakers with stone washed jeans, and have a son that despises them...but at the end of the day, at least they're not regional pilots.