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Old 02-06-2015, 09:16 AM
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It's going to happen, and sooner than you think. They (I think delta is pioneering this) are already drafting new hire initial programs that include many more sim sessions to qualify as "credit" toward the 1500 hours.

Remember, HR 5900 which requires all crew members to hold an ATP was passed into law and will not change, however the FAA is charged with determining what you need to qualify for one.
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Why?.......
The man isn't very much of a aviation supporter, he's isn't much on getting young blood into the industry. Not just with the 1500 rule. He said he wouldn't even allow his own children to fly
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Not sure why any pilot would want to roll back something that contributes to a shortage in the labor supply -- and therefore higher wages.
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Old 02-06-2015, 09:35 AM
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Not sure why any pilot would want to roll back something that contributes to a shortage in the labor supply -- and therefore higher wages.
Amen brother. Seems short-sighted and counter productive.
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Old 02-06-2015, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnLocke
Remember, HR 5900 which requires all crew members to hold an ATP was passed into law and will not change, however the FAA is charged with determining what you need to qualify for one.
Congress didn't trust the FAA, so while the law left the deets up to the FAA it also mandated a specific minimum of 1500 hours (also allowed for R-ATP minimums). So the law would have to be changed by congress, not just an FAA pencil-whip. Congress may not really care if a few bottom-feeder regional airlines have staffing troubles.
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Well...everyone can have an opinion; but I for one absolutely disagree with your assessment of Sully as a spokesman for the aviation industry as a whole and the airline industry inparticular.
I am with you on that one. Sully may be a hero and a great guy, but he is by no means a spokesman. His opinions aren't worth much more than all others.
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Old 02-06-2015, 10:47 AM
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I am with you on that one. Sully may be a hero and a great guy, but he is by no means a spokesman. His opinions aren't worth much more than all others.
You probably meant to quote the other poster then.

I believe Sully does an excellent job as a spokesman - especially for the woes of the airline industry and SAFETY. He explains the issues well and accurately - something which you won't see a lot of from many other aviation *experts* and often in language that the non-pilot/aviation enthusiast can understand.
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I hope they don't change the law anytime soon.
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Old 02-06-2015, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by prex8390
The man isn't very much of a aviation supporter, he's isn't much on getting young blood into the industry. Not just with the 1500 rule. He said he wouldn't even allow his own children to fly
Why? Because today's youth would actually have to work toward something? You can tell me the reward is no longer there as in years past, but the legacies are making gains in their contracts.

So there's a 1500 hour rule. What would you have done in the mid 90s when you actually needed that kind of time to be competitive to fly a turboprop?
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Congress didn't trust the FAA, so while the law left the deets up to the FAA it also mandated a specific minimum of 1500 hours (also allowed for R-ATP minimums). So the law would have to be changed by congress, not just an FAA pencil-whip. Congress may not really care if a few bottom-feeder regional airlines have staffing troubles.

Congress will care after the larger airlines discontinue service to their neck of the woods and give them the middle finger!
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