The likely story of 9e.
12-05-2014, 05:10 AM
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Maybe take your own advice about reading posts....
..............it's a valid one and for those who are considering 9e I invite you to consider its merits. Keep in mind that Delta is spending lots of time and money trying to improve the regional side of the brand. They want the trip from Cedar Rapids to London to offer top notch service. Having control of the regional product the way they have with 9e gives this to them. Consider why Delta wants 9e to work.
12-05-2014, 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Past V1
Goodness... None of you read post. NO ONE SAID anything about "quality control".... Cost control yes. If you look at most of the companies that Delta own, they are simply a mechanism to control cost. 9E is no different from...............
Maybe take your own advice about reading posts....
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Originally Posted by vilcas
..............it's a valid one and for those who are considering 9e I invite you to consider its merits. Keep in mind that Delta is spending lots of time and money trying to improve the regional side of the brand. They want the trip from Cedar Rapids to London to offer top notch service. Having control of the regional product the way they have with 9e gives this to them. Consider why Delta wants 9e to work.
Originally Posted by Past V1
Goodness... None of you read post. NO ONE SAID anything about "quality control".... Cost control yes. If you look at most of the companies that Delta own, they are simply a mechanism to control cost. 9E is no different from...............
Maybe take your own advice about reading posts....
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Originally Posted by vilcas
..............it's a valid one and for those who are considering 9e I invite you to consider its merits. Keep in mind that Delta is spending lots of time and money trying to improve the regional side of the brand. They want the trip from Cedar Rapids to London to offer top notch service. Having control of the regional product the way they have with 9e gives this to them. Consider why Delta wants 9e to work.
Now Delta may route 900's or 175's on this route if there is a high amount of international travel to collect first class fees. 9E would be in this position along with other carriers. This is the "top notch" service I believe the OP was referring to. Delta is spending money on regional product as a whole...not just 9E.
You're welcome...
12-05-2014, 05:30 AM
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....... I think at this point people believe Delta is serious about flying 200's at least in the near term........... Keep in mind that Delta is spending lots of time and money trying to improve the regional side of the brand............ Having control of the regional product the way they have with 9e gives this to them............. Consider why Delta wants 9e to work.
12-05-2014, 05:31 AM
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12-05-2014, 05:36 AM
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So if you had a time machine to ten years ago and you told all the regionals what was about to happen would they believe you? Or would they tell you something great is just around the corner.
Nothing great is just around the corner at any regional. Get your time and get out.
Nothing great is just around the corner at any regional. Get your time and get out.
12-05-2014, 06:10 AM
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I don't see this as quality control. In order for Delta to do this, 9E would have to own 100% of the regional feed. With regional spread among several different carriers it's impossible to have quality control.
Now Delta may route 900's or 175's on this route if there is a high amount of international travel to collect first class fees. 9E would be in this position along with other carriers. This is the "top notch" service I believe the OP was referring to. Delta is spending money on regional product as a whole...not just 9E.
You're welcome...
Now Delta may route 900's or 175's on this route if there is a high amount of international travel to collect first class fees. 9E would be in this position along with other carriers. This is the "top notch" service I believe the OP was referring to. Delta is spending money on regional product as a whole...not just 9E.
You're welcome...
Ummmm, OK.
BTW, I'm welcome for what?
12-05-2014, 06:57 AM
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In this career, there are bound to be hiccups. Economy, terrorist threats, consolidation and new FAA regs. Very big variables that could affect your career. But if you can stay focused and work hard, the career can be rewarding.
But jumping from regional to regional expecting fast results is not the way to do it. I've always believed slow and steady is better than fast and turbulent. Taking the "It's my money and I want it now" approach will hurt you in the end. You'll end up paying a chunk of what is owed to you when if you would have been patient, you would have had it all.
Again, 9E not a bad place to START your career once you see all the facts listed. Get your experience and move on. Simple...
As far as new hires... If I was walking distance to one of their bases I still wouldn't go there... I know you guys wanted it to work and I did to over the 7 years I was there. I was one of the lucky ones to go to a major, but even if that had not happened I would have been gone.
Take the blinders off guys.
12-05-2014, 07:34 AM
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As I read some of the responses I am struck by the generic tone of some of the negative responses. I hope these are seen as the emotional outbursts that they are and ignored. Delta has taken complete control over Endeavor. They manage the product and share several systems. This is much different than other airlines they have owned in the past. The key point and the goal most should have when approaching a regional is getting the experience they need to make the jump to a Major. Endeavor is once again moving into position as being a great stepping stone. A stepping stone with positive ties to Delta which will help in career progression. At the end of the day upgrades will be starting soon and when they start they will continue until the next bad thing happens that halts them which will affect everyone. In the meantime a new hire can enjoy the highest compensation for a first year regional FO in the industry. See past the rhetoric and analyze your decision closely. Try hard to ignore emotional claims and focus on logic.
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