Captain Tony

Either regional airline management has thoroughly infiltrated this board, or the rank and file pilots have been fed enough kool aid to become cheerleaders. Either way, all these posts trying to convince pilots to apply or stay at their companies are getting disturbing.

Past V1

Nobody said it's all great. Even at Mainline you will find things to complain about. Just go read the major forums. I just listed all the facts at 9E to show it's not as bad as some are saying on here. As stepping stool for the next stage in your career, 9E is not a bad place to choose. EVERY employer has their dark side. But don't go to a regional to make a career out of it. Choose one that has a viable business plan for some foreseeable future, get your experience and move on. It's that simple.

In this career, there are bound to be hiccups. Economy, terrorist threats, consolidation and new FAA regs. Very big variables that could affect your career. But if you can stay focused and work hard, the career can be rewarding.

But jumping from regional to regional expecting fast results is not the way to do it. I've always believed slow and steady is better than fast and turbulent. Taking the "It's my money and I want it now" approach will hurt you in the end. You'll end up paying a chunk of what is owed to you when if you would have been patient, you would have had it all.

Again, 9E not a bad place to START your career once you see all the facts listed. Get your experience and move on. Simple...

Past V1

No one said "STAY"...only advocating 9E is a decent stepping stool to get experience and move on. What is so bad about that? Isn't that what a regional is designed for when it comes to our career? With the hiring that is expected at the major level, wouldn't you want to get the experience and move on?

Take it back one step....would you tell a newly certified flight instructor to go to the best school to fly with the best students? NO

A new CFI would go to a place to get the time and move on. Same with 9E. Get your time and move on. But don't wait for some magic bulletproof plan that will make a regional a "great" place to work. It just doesn't exist. Not at ANY regional. To say otherwise is just absurd.

DENpilot

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Deice Press

FYI - Vilcas Is a notorious lifer. He makes posts like this every few months trying to share kool aid. Don't fall for the nonsense. 9E remains one of the worst possible choices for any new hire.

Tacos

If you think Delta owns Pinnacle or Endevour?! for "quality control", you do not understand Delta. All they care about is money. MONEY! Everything else is just a show. Your realize this isn't the first regional they've had. Most of us from ASA or Comair have been there before. Pinnacle is no different and nothing special. Sorry to break it to you. Also, even if upgrades are needed, they will not happen unless you have new FOs too. You can't have an airline full of captains.

Past V1

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Past V1

Maybe...but that doesn't negate the facts I posted.

Tacos

^^This is the basic regional formula.

Horrible work environment and bad lifestyle will probably move you along quicker.

Reasonable work environment and good QOL, will stagnate your career.

Unfortunately we as pilots, especially regional pilots are willing to sell ourselves out again for a crap company for the hope we get to move on quicker. Thus eroding any foundation of solidarity we have. Problem is, if you get stuck at your regional, where would you rather be? Of course we all know we will get hired by Delta though so no sweat .

This is the same concept as pay for training/experiance that everyone complains about. However it doesn't apply to them of course.

Past V1

Goodness... None of you read post. NO ONE SAID anything about "quality control".... Cost control yes. If you look at most of the companies that Delta own, they are simply a mechanism to control cost. 9E is no different from those other companies. There is a reason that Delta is the most profitable major airline in the US. Cost control. Part of the way they do it is by controlling similar companies that are vendors and a low cost. Just do a google search on all the subsidiaries that Delta own and see how they are intertwined within their operation and you will get a clear picture. Start with the oil rig. Endeavor is part of that mechanism. Simple....

Stop with all the emotional post and start posting facts. Not trying to start an argument, but I think it would be helpful for our fellow pilots to see facts. Also to the public that we are not all immature uneducated individuals.