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11-29-2014, 09:39 AM
#31
You scratched my anchor
Joined APC: Feb 2011
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Exactly how is that prententious? Was just answering the previous poster that not everyone is stuck at the Regionals for years & years....and offering some very sound advice on how to get a resume noticed? Everyone you know at DAL may have been hired under different times/circumstances and may or may not have gotten a call in today's environment. My phone would probably be silent as well considering how competitive hiring currently is.
It was not my intent to come across as prententious at all. Simply pointing out the facts. There will be PLENTY of jobs available for those who simply want to show up, fly their trips & go home.....5 years from now. You want to get in at the beginning of the hiring wave you HAVE to set yourself apart from the crowd. If by pointing that out I'm prententious then I guess I am.
It was not my intent to come across as prententious at all. Simply pointing out the facts. There will be PLENTY of jobs available for those who simply want to show up, fly their trips & go home.....5 years from now. You want to get in at the beginning of the hiring wave you HAVE to set yourself apart from the crowd. If by pointing that out I'm prententious then I guess I am.
11-29-2014, 11:59 AM
#32
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Joined APC: Jun 2012
Posts: 289
Hockey, 80kts & myself are all at DAL. There was a VERY small window in '03-'07 that some of us slipped through. Admittedly we are the exception & not the norm. I went from my 1st Pvt Pilot lesson to an RJ in 11 months. 9E newhire 12/04....DAL Newhire 35 months later. Varied resume', small business owner, BA, previous enlisted military, base CP.
5 years from now the above will be the norm and not the exception. Right now just TPIC won't even get you an interview. You need to stand out, MBA, CP, LCP, community volunteer, Safety Committee or something else besides just showing up for work. Blemish free background & perfect credit, no rediculous FB posts or negative nancy comments about your current or (desired) future employer. They are vetting EVERYTHING. DAL has 70 full time people who do nothing but troll the webs looking for anything to do with DAL. I'd imagine the other carriers do as well. You want to be at the forefront of the hiring wave just beginning....you need to do something to set yourself apart from the other 10,000 RJ Capts with 1000's of hrs of TPIC.
5 years from now the above will be the norm and not the exception. Right now just TPIC won't even get you an interview. You need to stand out, MBA, CP, LCP, community volunteer, Safety Committee or something else besides just showing up for work. Blemish free background & perfect credit, no rediculous FB posts or negative nancy comments about your current or (desired) future employer. They are vetting EVERYTHING. DAL has 70 full time people who do nothing but troll the webs looking for anything to do with DAL. I'd imagine the other carriers do as well. You want to be at the forefront of the hiring wave just beginning....you need to do something to set yourself apart from the other 10,000 RJ Capts with 1000's of hrs of TPIC.
The norm? Geez I hope not! I can't afford to finish my A.S much less an MBA within the next 3 years... Guess some of us are just f'd from the start.
Makes me want to go to the "leaving the career thread" and keep planning my exit. This is becoming more of a lottery game and some of us can't keep playing and losing before life comes knocking. Oh well...
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11-29-2014, 12:51 PM
#33
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Joined APC: Nov 2011
Position: One with wings
Posts: 332
The norm? Geez I hope not! I can't afford to finish my A.S much less an MBA within the next 3 years... Guess some of us are just f'd from the start.
Makes me want to go to the "leaving the career thread" and keep planning my exit. This is becoming more of a lottery game and some of us can't keep playing and losing before life comes knocking. Oh well...
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Makes me want to go to the "leaving the career thread" and keep planning my exit. This is becoming more of a lottery game and some of us can't keep playing and losing before life comes knocking. Oh well...
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11-29-2014, 01:37 PM
#34
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Joined APC: Jun 2012
Posts: 289
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I hear you on all points...in just saying how f'd up I am in particular. I could swing the cost of finishing my B.A over the next 3 years if I keep trying, but an MBA? Nope! And now that you mention it, I'm more than 10 years in obtaining it...guess the financial choices I made early on are just going to keep on screwing me. Oh well, I'll keep trying and working for it all...can't say I have much faith anymore though.
You are right in that I didn't do very good planning, I thought I'd have it all lined up by now but making peanuts for 5 years and counting has kept me down. Oh well, that's life...
I'm at nearly 4k TT now got the 1000 tpic and mostly pic twin time; now flying sic in the md83; not holding my breath though lol that's life.
Thanks for the advice man
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You are right in that I didn't do very good planning, I thought I'd have it all lined up by now but making peanuts for 5 years and counting has kept me down. Oh well, that's life...
I'm at nearly 4k TT now got the 1000 tpic and mostly pic twin time; now flying sic in the md83; not holding my breath though lol that's life.
Thanks for the advice man
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11-29-2014, 01:56 PM
#35
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Joined APC: Dec 2010
Position: Reverse Cowgirl
Posts: 546
Haha are you trolling? You can't even get off reserve as an FO at most regionals by 3 1/2 years. Upgrade is 6-8 most places. The big three UA, AA and DL only hire with no PIC if you're a girl or the son of the chief pilot. I haven't heard of anyone who fits into neither of those two categories who has gone to a major in under 5 years recently.
If you're counting Spirit, Allegiant and Virgin as majors I can see people getting there in 3.5 with a lot of persistence, but definitely not UA, AA and DL.
If you're counting Spirit, Allegiant and Virgin as majors I can see people getting there in 3.5 with a lot of persistence, but definitely not UA, AA and DL.
Does have advanced degree, volunteer work on resume and went to Jobfairs.
Jobfair was the key. Hired at AA with 4 years at Regionals.
But agreed.. most people will take a lot longer.
11-29-2014, 02:00 PM
#36
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Joined APC: Dec 2010
Position: Reverse Cowgirl
Posts: 546
The norm? Geez I hope not! I can't afford to finish my A.S much less an MBA within the next 3 years... Guess some of us are just f'd from the start.
Makes me want to go to the "leaving the career thread" and keep planning my exit. This is becoming more of a lottery game and some of us can't keep playing and losing before life comes knocking. Oh well...
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Makes me want to go to the "leaving the career thread" and keep planning my exit. This is becoming more of a lottery game and some of us can't keep playing and losing before life comes knocking. Oh well...
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11-29-2014, 02:18 PM
#37
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Joined APC: Jun 2012
Posts: 289
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Not whining sir! 
But thanks for jumping the gun and calling me out
I do all of the above; and love volunteering, wish that could be my job lol. A good dose of reality (such as his posts) sure helps to put things in perspective. We won't all make it to the top, but I'm hoping for my bite at the apple before long. This thread has been helpful so far
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But thanks for jumping the gun and calling me out I do all of the above; and love volunteering, wish that could be my job lol. A good dose of reality (such as his posts) sure helps to put things in perspective. We won't all make it to the top, but I'm hoping for my bite at the apple before long. This thread has been helpful so far
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