This is what a pilot shortage really does
12-03-2014, 10:44 AM
#63
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What 40 ERJs are coming to LAX? Or are you referring to the UAL Ejets we've known about for 1.5 years? Yeah I'm not using rumors from the FSI break room, I do have blood and friends in HDQ, including the MX department. I knew the date of the Bros going away since September when everyone else was speculating if it was going to happen or not, and if so it would be a "slow wind down". If everyone I know at HDQ has been decoyed into believing its mainly MX issues, and it is truly all about staffing, then something additional is on the horizon. I know the AA E175s are being bid on. But on the same token, so is most of what is currently being flown.
12-03-2014, 01:21 PM
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Airlines are like any other business before paying one more penny in salaries they will discontinue the service or shrink it. Demand means little when balanced by salary increases.
12-03-2014, 01:27 PM
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Which is the very hot button that had most shaking in their booties. Disinformation, obscuration, all smoke and mirrors, and the average line pilot falls for it hook line and sinker. How bout a Billion dollar game of chicken? They have far more to lose than we do. Shrink before raising pilot pay, PLULLLHEEZE, "Oh yeah, we will show those pesky pilots, we will shrink and wave good bye to our cushy cash cow" What are they gonna do in SGU if SKYW shrinks? Work at the Dairy Queen? SAPA is their advertizing agency, plain and simple. Lock in what? They giveth, and they can take it away all based upon a quick keystroke of their Dell computers. Do you really believe the stuff you type or are you a shill?
12-03-2014, 01:38 PM
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Pure speculation, but I think the future at regional is for slightly higher salaries for a number of years to bring some of the marginally interested pilots out of the woodwork. Gradually they'll raise pay and working conditions as we are already seeing at Lakes, CommutAir and a few others. They are extremely reluctant to dramatically raise pay because once that happens it is impossible to put the cat back in the bag. We'll see piddling raises for years to keep the marginal people coming. Airlines are very good at chiseling costs and will not stop doing that any time soon but I doubt we'll see any of them fold due to lack of pilots.
12-03-2014, 02:55 PM
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Which is the very hot button that had most shaking in their booties. Disinformation, obscuration, all smoke and mirrors, and the average line pilot falls for it hook line and sinker. How bout a Billion dollar game of chicken? They have far more to lose than we do. Shrink before raising pilot pay, PLULLLHEEZE, "Oh yeah, we will show those pesky pilots, we will shrink and wave good bye to our cushy cash cow" What are they gonna do in SGU if SKYW shrinks? Work at the Dairy Queen? SAPA is their advertizing agency, plain and simple. Lock in what? They giveth, and they can take it away all based upon a quick keystroke of their Dell computers. Do you really believe the stuff you type or are you a shill?
12-03-2014, 06:30 PM
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Large companies absolutely can use shrinkage as a survival tactic instead of maintaining heavy payrolls. All the bizjet manufacturers in Wichita downsized after the Recession in 2009, Cessna alone laid off 8,000 who never returned. My point was they will only raise them in drips and drabs as the market gins up support. There will not be a genuine, deep pilot shortage in the next 20 years and there isn't really one now either since the pilots already exist.
12-03-2014, 06:44 PM
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Large companies absolutely can use shrinkage as a survival tactic instead of maintaining heavy payrolls. All the bizjet manufacturers in Wichita downsized after the Recession in 2009, Cessna alone laid off 8,000 who never returned. My point was they will only raise them in drips and drabs as the market gins up support. There will not be a genuine, deep pilot shortage in the next 20 years and there isn't really one now either since the pilots already exist.
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