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Old 11-28-2014, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Ar Pilot
Do you understand how FFD and bidding on flying works?
yes i do, do you know how stupid, stupid really is? I ask because if that is the case as you refer, then why the hell own a regional at mainline in the first place?
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Old 11-28-2014, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by buddies8
yes i do, do you know how stupid, stupid really is? I ask because if that is the case as you refer, then why the hell own a regional at mainline in the first place?
So you can do exactly what they're doing and still have the option to farm out flying for cheap short term contracts when you need to?
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Old 11-28-2014, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Bzzt
The fact you guys think a multi millionaire is wasting his time on a message board with maybe 30 Envoy pilots makes me laugh.

We as pilots are as insignificant as any other labor group, accept your station in life and get used to it.
You must have been on the interview a year ago+, but when kirby's hous purchase in DFW was found and it was being posted on the internet, because within 24 hours google had blocked the image. So you may be right, they dont surf the internet to see what we are saying, they pay someone to do it for them while they have the additional free time to conive a new way to screw us with the help of the company stooges for a plus.
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Old 11-28-2014, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
He is talking about how you got to AA. Too much turkey that you can't comprehend?
That's why it was phrased as a question my silly little STILL RJ pilot.

I got to AA through a negotiated agreement. It was very flawed and took over a decade. Now characters like him use that as something to support what ?

DOING THE SAME THING AGAIN. Completely nuts.

I find any criticism you have to be laughable. You've done the same as him multiple times (all those "yes" votes) to throw others under the bus to benefit you. You finally embarrassed yourself so bad, your credibility and effectiveness was then shot.

Your solution ?

To then FABRICATE a story that you've resigned from Envoy to take (and this is the funniest part).....a direct entry left-seat position in a top-of-the-line GV at a starting pay of $250,000 a year in the DFW area yet (which you made sure everyone knew). You wouldn't know the first thing about corporate ops to Europe and the Far East, yet there you sit. Demented and sad, yet funny.

The saddest thing is that you really don't realize just how pathetic that is. I mean seriously..........someone really has to be psychiatrically twisted to do that to try and regain credibility. But, when you're bankrupt of credibility and pathological lying isn't a problem, I guess that is all that's left........well, that and attempting to out other members. Instead of you who keeps falsely telling Envoy pilots "good luck guys", it's my turn to tell YOU, good luck R-J Pilot.

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Old 11-28-2014, 02:44 PM
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Do not use peoples real names in posts, and please do not flamebait either. Be civil and respectful guys.
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Old 11-28-2014, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by buddies8
yes i do, do you know how stupid, stupid really is? I ask because if that is the case as you refer, then why the hell own a regional at mainline in the first place?
There is no reason. Reference many quotes by THE Richard Anderson himself.
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Old 11-28-2014, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Cubdriver
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Do not use peoples real names in posts, and please do not flamebait either. Be civil and respectful guys.
Why not use factual names? The names are not "outing" APC members handles.

And for flame bait.... What about the troll who started this thread?
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Sky Talk: Envoy Air pilots union says more operational cuts are coming at the regional airline
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Old 11-28-2014, 09:50 PM
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Yet, Air Wisconsin is getting aircraft AND offering this:

Starting pay for first officers is $27.23 /block hour and after one year is $40.03/block hour. Per diem is at $1.60/hour.

Besides competitive pay, Air Wisconsin pilots are offered a benefits package including: Medical/dental insurance; life insurance; short/long-term disability; flexible spending accounts; paid vacation/sick time; 401(k) with 4% company match and a company contribution of 3% of compensation; uniform, headset and medical exam allowances
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Yet, Air Wisconsin is getting aircraft AND offering this:

Starting pay for first officers is $27.23 /block hour and after one year is $40.03/block hour. Per diem is at $1.60/hour.

Besides competitive pay, Air Wisconsin pilots are offered a benefits package including: Medical/dental insurance; life insurance; short/long-term disability; flexible spending accounts; paid vacation/sick time; 401(k) with 4% company match and a company contribution of 3% of compensation; uniform, headset and medical exam allowances
They're not wholly owned. AA couldn't care less how much they pay their pilots as long as they accept $x per departure.
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