Captain Tony

12/4 is the currently biggest threat to all airline pilots. Not even just regionals pilots.

It is being supported by ALPA National in their crusade to kill off the regionals and create more mainline jobs. Even high paying regionals like ASA/XJT have had it floated to us. What's dangerous is that it isn't a condensed pay scale, it's a chopped off pay scale. It's 18 year CAs going down to 12 year pay! At my company, that's a $17.77/hr pay cut! That's also 8 year FOs frozen at 4th year pay when upgrade is 8 years or worse.

The problem is that mainline pilots are whistling past the graveyard on this issue. What they don't realize is that once the precedent is set, the regionals are killed, and they recapture the flying, management will be coming after them. Yes, Delta currently has a 12 year pay scale, but it's a condensed scale. they will be pressed the hardest for concessions. The regionals hold the bar at the bottom of the industry. When they fall, everyone falls and the downward pressure increases.

spaaks

You need to work on reading comprehension. The post I commented on said nothing about the number of seats in the plane, it said that you guys sold out the industry "to get yours", which is true. Now, Mesa putting more seats in a crj900 than the rest of the industry is a small exception because TODAY if mainline gave up scope to 88 pax, they would not be doing it on a cr9, they would be using a crj1000, e-190, c series...etc. Go back to thinking that you're not selfish and that you didn't do a ton of harm to the entire industry

meyers9163

Right.... I personally have a selfish mindset...

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The joke of the commuters is that most mainline F/A's earn more than commuter pilots.

If they could go away tomorrow it would be too soon. Fortunately your opinion is not mirrored by the majority. Lemme guess you are a RJDC supporter!!

The more flying we have at mainline the more leverage we have. And mainline can take advantage of it. While the commuters **** and moan over $3 extra in a contract D.Parker just gave our FAs a $200 mil increase in their contract.

JetMonkey

We're getting hints for the JCBA... should have something offered from the company soon. Scope relief from 76 to 81 seats is what was being floated around. The APA is standing firm, thank God.

buddies8

you are a little late and somewhat wrong.

Saabs

so please tell us all knowing one, how do u know what is being talked about and considered outside of the usapa and apa emails? You must be more knowing than any rep who have signed non disclosure agreements and then u must be even smarter to post on here

everyone has their theories on what Is being asked and proposed. I'm sure every major starts out with being asked to loosen scope. I'm gonna go off the email sent out a few months ago, you can go off your rumours....

Captain Tony

I thought all Mainline Pilots had to have a college degree???

I like your "joke" about the mainline FAs. I made a bit over 6 figures last year as a CRJ Captain, and I'm quite comfortable with my QOL. How much did your FAs make? How much did you make for that matter?

RJDC is sooooo 10 years ago...

Avroman

I can tell you that a new hire Delta FA makes more than any FO at Endeavor thanks to that BS 4 year cap.

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I made six figures as an RJ CA as well for the ~4 years I was in the left seat. The earning potential however is far, far higher at a legacy than a topped out commuter pilot. Factor in job security, benefits, 401k contributions, variety of flying, equipment, even treatment by staff and passengers etc. and you just can't even begin to compare the two.

QOL? I worked 6 days in Sept, and 7 in Aug. That is QOL. A topped out ASA co-pilot would make $42,000 a year at guarantee for the same. This is your idea of "high paying"?

I was talking to one of our F/As this last trip, they make an average of $2,600 a month handing out credit cards (around $30k yearly). Not too shabby for some side income.