CBreezy

Agreed. Did you know that unionization has dropped from 33% of all labor during the 70s to less than 10% today? I think it's around 6% today.

Unfortunately, labor will always lose to the bottom dollar and until the middle class realizes this, things will continue to get worse until they are nearly unrecoverable.

klondike

You'll get sick of that teaching crap pretty quickly my friend. I got [deleted] off at the regional I worked for and quit to do the same thing you did. Now I regret it.

Enjoy the corporate greed at your new gig. It's no different.

As for being a proud progressive- Congratulations.

skypilot35

One seniority list.

The Juice

Never going to happen. Such a move would need to be spearheaded my Legacy carrier pilots. Can you imagine what it would take for a major pilot to sign off on the idea of having a lifelong regional pilot jump them on their own seniority list?

ShyGuy

One longevity list. Bottom of the list for bidding schedules and vacation, but longevity for pay. Get paid for the experience you bring. Since people like to compare pilots to doctors, the AMA spells out the strict requirements of newhire Doctors that companies must hire. Make it the same. Companies can only go so long by hiring bottom barrel for experience before they are forced to hire guys throughout the experience spectrum. This pill would have been easiest to swallow for the legacies in 2010-2013 when virtually every pilot was topped at the 12 yr scale anyway.

But alas it'll never happen.

skypilot35

Agreed. I should have stipulated one seniority list for us regional guys/gals.

The Juice

Fixed it for ya

Std Deviation

Agree. And if that "one of the big three" is FSI, you're a pawn. My position as a PM was eliminated and I was sent to teach classes no one really wanted. Center manager can change your life on a whim. I was there six years and recently left for a regional to become current again. Could not see another 25 years of 12 hour days (8 in ground school and 4 in the sim) seven days a week. Meanwhile, my corporate contacts (most recently a Fortune 10 company) have contacted me personally to provide them with onsite training, which I conduct at reasonable - not exorbitant - prices. Nice as a regional salary subsidy.

TrinityDawn

The major airlines haven't had to deal with market forces impacting pilot wages in any real way, and that's due to the non-portability of our labor due to the union seniority system. In most other skilled professions, one can switch companies and be compensated based on experience. Thus, the major airlines haven't been forced to adjust wages to keep around their best and most experienced pilots. Pilots at the regionals have been hamstrung from leaving for better employers due to being forced to start over at first year pay. Market forces have not been in play to eliminate failing businesses that treat their employees poorly. Couple that with antiquated bankruptcy and union laws, and the airlines haven't had to deal with true market forces in a long time.

You CLEARLY haven't read Atlas Shrugged, or if you have you didn't comprehend it. One of Ayn Rand's primary philosophies was that NO ONE should work for free, be a slave to any other man, and should be compensated fairly for their labor. In the book, the protagonist Dagny Taggert does everything in her power to REWARD her best employees, treat them well, and promote them. The airlines, and corporate America as a whole, have forgotten that the employees ARE the company.

If you're going to malign something, I suggest you know what the hell you're talking about first, rather then regurgitating some tired liberal propaganda that you were fed.

Brand X

The public doesn't care about the plight of the regional pilot, they just want a cheap ticket and not die in the process.

If the regional flying goes back to the majors, what are you going to do with all the regional pilots, seeing as more than a few are not qualified for a major and/or not major material?