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Old 09-11-2014, 03:18 PM
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With that writing style you shouldn't have too much in the way of college loans to pay back.
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Old 09-12-2014, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by WakeWash
I have been observing this site for a little over a year now and never had any intention on signing up until now.

All of this hate to PSA has made me want to share with you how is see things from being someone with low time ready to enter into the airline industry.

I have done a ton of research on every regional also so I am pretty familiar with contracts and what is going on everywhere. I have had multiple interview and have 6 offers in which I am very grateful to be able to choose where I'd like to go. The first was with Eagle. The interview was a blast, however everyone there and even now has said stay away and do not go there. The place is shrinking and upgrade is forever so why would I go there? Next was SkyWest, but I live on the east coast and would much like to stay here. Also as some of you know school and ratings were not easy, and with training pay and first year, I would be unable to afford my student loan payments. So not only is this not a wise choice, but it also is not a smart move for me if I wish to not miss a payment. Next was Republic. Every interview I had there were at least 2 Republic guys there tr ting to "get out." On top of everyone saying how bad it is to work there. Plus with no cancellation pay, I chose to not go there. Then we have Mesa. Quick phone call and I had the offer. But as stated before, I have student loans and I couldn't afford to go there and suffer for that first year or two. Quick upgrade sounds awesome, but it can't rely on that. I also intviewed with Express and the interview itself made up my mind. 8 hours there with only an hour actually doing something. The other 7 were sitting in the cafeteria, the two interviewers seemed like they hated life and didn't wanna be there, and every pilot walking by said do not come here. I got the offer but am in a hiring pool. Then I applied at PSA. Like most of you, I was completely against it given there rep on taking concessions. But they explained the contract and scheduling to me a bit more and I actually being to think this was it. A pay I could survive on, scheduling that I can make work for getting time off when I want. A decent upgrade, and a growing company. So I have a place where I don't have to commute, where upgrade is decent, and where I will personally have a pretty good QOL. I wanted to go to Eagle, but at this time PSA is the best place A new hire can go. I really do feel bade for Eagle/Envoy, and I understand why you would hate the PSA pilots who said yes. But PSA is growing so fast and some of our careers can't take us continuing to instruct in piston airplanes while everyone else "takes a stand." I need to start getting 121 and turbine time. So my question is how is it that every PSA pilot a scumbag? After all my research and waiting and everything, this is the best place to go right now. To take the vote of a few a while back out on all of these new hires go in got an airline that really is the best place as of now is just ridiculous. And to think that pilots will despise me because I chose a place where I could enjoy living in base and have a good QOL like THEY SUGGESTED is absurd. I just want y'all to take a second and see it from a new 121 pilots view, and quit this petty bickering. This is the best thing for me, why hate me for it?
I have been in the exact same position... had my eyes on Eagle for while and really wanted to work there but it just can't be a good idea to go to a downsizing company who is losing work.
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Old 09-12-2014, 01:58 PM
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People like him is what gives this business a bad rap.
You don't own a jumpseat to start with..I would never purposely hinder a man from getting to home or work based on childish animosity towards a specific company. That's just inmature and unprofessional to me.Youre a real class act.Just remember what goes around comes around.
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Old 09-14-2014, 09:54 PM
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Instead of the 1500 hour rule there should be an "act like a grown up" rule.
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Old 09-15-2014, 07:49 AM
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Old 09-15-2014, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Duksrule
Instead of the 1500 hour rule there should be an "act like a grown up" rule.
Well the ATP does require one to be of "good moral character"...
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Old 09-15-2014, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by WakeWash
I have been observing this site for a little over a year now and never had any intention on signing up until now.

All of this hate to PSA has made me want to share with you how is see things from being someone with low time ready to enter into the airline industry.

I have done a ton of research on every regional also so I am pretty familiar with contracts and what is going on everywhere. I have had multiple interview and have 6 offers in which I am very grateful to be able to choose where I'd like to go. The first was with Eagle. The interview was a blast, however everyone there and even now has said stay away and do not go there. The place is shrinking and upgrade is forever so why would I go there? Next was SkyWest, but I live on the east coast and would much like to stay here. Also as some of you know school and ratings were not easy, and with training pay and first year, I would be unable to afford my student loan payments. So not only is this not a wise choice, but it also is not a smart move for me if I wish to not miss a payment. Next was Republic. Every interview I had there were at least 2 Republic guys there tr ting to "get out." On top of everyone saying how bad it is to work there. Plus with no cancellation pay, I chose to not go there. Then we have Mesa. Quick phone call and I had the offer. But as stated before, I have student loans and I couldn't afford to go there and suffer for that first year or two. Quick upgrade sounds awesome, but it can't rely on that. I also intviewed with Express and the interview itself made up my mind. 8 hours there with only an hour actually doing something. The other 7 were sitting in the cafeteria, the two interviewers seemed like they hated life and didn't wanna be there, and every pilot walking by said do not come here. I got the offer but am in a hiring pool. Then I applied at PSA. Like most of you, I was completely against it given there rep on taking concessions. But they explained the contract and scheduling to me a bit more and I actually being to think this was it. A pay I could survive on, scheduling that I can make work for getting time off when I want. A decent upgrade, and a growing company. So I have a place where I don't have to commute, where upgrade is decent, and where I will personally have a pretty good QOL. I wanted to go to Eagle, but at this time PSA is the best place A new hire can go. I really do feel bade for Eagle/Envoy, and I understand why you would hate the PSA pilots who said yes. But PSA is growing so fast and some of our careers can't take us continuing to instruct in piston airplanes while everyone else "takes a stand." I need to start getting 121 and turbine time. So my question is how is it that every PSA pilot a scumbag? After all my research and waiting and everything, this is the best place to go right now. To take the vote of a few a while back out on all of these new hires go in got an airline that really is the best place as of now is just ridiculous. And to think that pilots will despise me because I chose a place where I could enjoy living in base and have a good QOL like THEY SUGGESTED is absurd. I just want y'all to take a second and see it from a new 121 pilots view, and quit this petty bickering. This is the best thing for me, why hate me for it?
A whole lot of "I" and "What's best for me." Hopefully, at some point in your career, you'll think in terms of "WE."

Good luck to all of us.
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Old 09-15-2014, 09:42 PM
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Not sure I understand how you can't afford Mesa, but can afford PSA. Aren't they pretty much the same pay? If anything, isn't medical insurance at PSA more?

But yeah, not commuting is definitely a good call.
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Old 09-16-2014, 05:37 AM
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75 hours min guarantee plus perdiem paid during training. As well as single occupancy hotel room. That's better deal than even L-Xjt. They also have a pretty good commuter clause at PSA.
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