seafeye

Ok, so i am trying to think outside the box here. Doug P. really really needs the single airline certificate so he can properly rule the world with air travel. Right now maybe our only chance for the people who have been working so hard at the wholly owned to get a seniority number.
What i suggest is that the following airlines come to an agreement with one large seniority list.
American
Airways
American West
Eagle
PSA
Piedmont.

Many pilots here have decades of experience flying for the regional. This can solve many problems for both management and labor.
Regional pilots deserve seniority numbers, we are being held while other pilots from other airlines with less qualifications get hired.
Management is going to have issues staffing the new airline, wether they believe it or not. The 700's wouldn't matter if they came to PSA if they came with Eagle pilots. And vise versa.
If mother American needed pilots to stay flying the 200/700/900 then so be it. We wouldn't care to stay a year or two longer if we had a seniority number.
So rather than we all get into a ****ing contest with what airplanes belong where, lets get together and get on one big list. Business can be a Win-Win.

We win with getting on the list.
Management wins by getting the airplanes staffed without conflict.

JohnGardner

Hey, I'd love this too, but here is the problem with the regionals. By whittling it down to a few "specialists" (their word) they cut down on training cycles, a major cost. No more left-seat-to-other-left-seat moves, for example. Plus being able to whipsaw, huge bonus, as is a hydra flow thru octopus designed to keep pilots at the regionals longer. Mainline merge, sure, they are doing it. Merge a few regionals and create specialists? Already their stated plan.

Name User

I left a USX carrier and at one point was #3 from the bottom on the "newAA" list.

I'm sorry I would never want a combined merger of all those companies and pilots. I took a risk just like everyone before me. Get off your humps and apply like everyone else!

Or you can "wait your turn" like the Eagle guys did and spend 15 years at a commuter. No thanks! The "senior CA's" are no more qualified to be at mainline, in fact I would prefer to have the hungrier guys get the jobs over the ones who sit in their comfy RJ seat and just by virtue alone get a #.

Lambourne

Why would American and USAir pilots want to dilute their seniority with a merger with the regional carriers? There are no staffing issues at mainline so who does this really help?

Maybe you should also propose your 401k be exchanged share for share with Berkshire Hathaway. It would only be "fair" and solve your retirement concerns.....

Firsttimeflyer

Why would senior mainline guys ever consider this? Not a chance in the world.

ZapBrannigan

This will be a 15 page thread full of entitlement "win" in 48 hours. I'm gonna go pop some popcorn...

JT8D

It's pathetic. As soon as Eagle obtained a flowthrough program that appeared to be working, every spoiled, entitled little brat on the block who was not a party to the breach of contract or the resultant arbitrator's award wanted in too.

Seafeye, is this what you forewent your shot at Atlas for? Try to piggyback off the very same pilots who your group so flagrantly stabbed in the back?

toomanyrjs

**** that! Why should any POS RJ ***** get to bypass the screening process at a major? Resign and start at the bottom like everyone else!

seafeye

Because a 90 seat airplane flying Clt-Dfw is not a regional jet or route.
The airplanes has the American brand on it. The pax bought tickets on American. The routes and airplanes belong to American. And the pilots are wearing American uniforms. How can you say we aren't part of American/airways?

JT8D

Let me just go ahead and fix that for you...

That's right, it's OUR name you are taking advantage of.