Regulate the regionals?
09-10-2014, 06:45 AM
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Regulate the regionals?
All the talk of low pay at the regionals and the constant whipsaw that takes place leads me to think that the solution would be for the Federal Government to regulate the regional airlines. That way, the Government could set a livable minimum wage for First Officers and dictate the division of regional feed to the majors. This would allow a good standard of living for regional pilots and end the whipsaw, as the Government would decide what regional flies for what major and what routes the regional flies.
And to take it a step further, the Government should subsidize low interest loans and provide grants for gifted accredited aviation university students, to enable them to get the 1500hrs as economically as possible. The Government should also forgive existing flight school and aviation university loans for regional pilots to give them a head start and not be burdened with debt.
The above would go a long way to making the regional a place where pilots can actually have a decent career.
And to take it a step further, the Government should subsidize low interest loans and provide grants for gifted accredited aviation university students, to enable them to get the 1500hrs as economically as possible. The Government should also forgive existing flight school and aviation university loans for regional pilots to give them a head start and not be burdened with debt.
The above would go a long way to making the regional a place where pilots can actually have a decent career.
09-10-2014, 06:51 AM
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What's an accredited university student?
09-10-2014, 06:56 AM
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I say keep uncle sam out of it. They've already done more than enough damage. Plus, we qualify for welfare, what other subsidies do you want?
09-10-2014, 07:02 AM
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No offense but I think you have been drinking too much of Barack's koolaid. Let's get off the Obama train for a moment and think about the harm this would cause to the industry...
Government operates at the very height of inefficiency and wasteful spending. Also take into account government hiring practices. They are less concerned with hiring skilled, highly qualified workers and more concerned with diversity and hiring based on ethnicity and demographics. "Uhhh yeah, you have an excellent resume but unfortunately we're only looking to hire Native American pilots to meet our quota to make the tax payers happy..." Is this the kind of red tape you want to put up with for the rest of your career?
Also the government doesn't need to go bailing pilots out of their loans. I mean, yes it would be nice but we all need to realize that we are accountable for what we borrowed, and hopefully we were all conscious when we signed the dotted line for x amount of $$$ to go to flight school. We have to be responsible for we committed ourselves to.
Government intervention would take an already crippled industry and obliterate it into a wasteland of PC and endless paperwork (as if there isn't enough of that already).
Government operates at the very height of inefficiency and wasteful spending. Also take into account government hiring practices. They are less concerned with hiring skilled, highly qualified workers and more concerned with diversity and hiring based on ethnicity and demographics. "Uhhh yeah, you have an excellent resume but unfortunately we're only looking to hire Native American pilots to meet our quota to make the tax payers happy..." Is this the kind of red tape you want to put up with for the rest of your career?
Also the government doesn't need to go bailing pilots out of their loans. I mean, yes it would be nice but we all need to realize that we are accountable for what we borrowed, and hopefully we were all conscious when we signed the dotted line for x amount of $$$ to go to flight school. We have to be responsible for we committed ourselves to.
Government intervention would take an already crippled industry and obliterate it into a wasteland of PC and endless paperwork (as if there isn't enough of that already).
09-10-2014, 07:05 AM
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All the talk of low pay at the regionals and the constant whipsaw that takes place leads me to think that the solution would be for the Federal Government to regulate the regional airlines. That way, the Government could set a livable minimum wage for First Officers and dictate the division of regional feed to the majors. This would allow a good standard of living for regional pilots and end the whipsaw, as the Government would decide what regional flies for what major and what routes the regional flies.
And to take it a step further, the Government should subsidize low interest loans and provide grants for gifted accredited aviation university students, to enable them to get the 1500hrs as economically as possible. The Government should also forgive existing flight school and aviation university loans for regional pilots to give them a head start and not be burdened with debt.
The above would go a long way to making the regional a place where pilots can actually have a decent career.
And to take it a step further, the Government should subsidize low interest loans and provide grants for gifted accredited aviation university students, to enable them to get the 1500hrs as economically as possible. The Government should also forgive existing flight school and aviation university loans for regional pilots to give them a head start and not be burdened with debt.
The above would go a long way to making the regional a place where pilots can actually have a decent career.
09-10-2014, 07:19 AM
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No offense but I think you have been drinking too much of Barack's koolaid. Let's get off the Obama train for a moment and think about the harm this would cause to the industry...
Government operates at the very height of inefficiency and wasteful spending. Also take into account government hiring practices. They are less concerned with hiring skilled, highly qualified workers and more concerned with diversity and hiring based on ethnicity and demographics. "Uhhh yeah, you have an excellent resume but unfortunately we're only looking to hire Native American pilots to meet our quota to make the tax payers happy..." Is this the kind of red tape you want to put up with for the rest of your career?
Also the government doesn't need to go bailing pilots out of their loans. I mean, yes it would be nice but we all need to realize that we are accountable for what we borrowed, and hopefully we were all conscious when we signed the dotted line for x amount of $$$ to go to flight school. We have to be responsible for we committed ourselves to.
Government intervention would take an already crippled industry and obliterate it into a wasteland of PC and endless paperwork (as if there isn't enough of that already).
Government operates at the very height of inefficiency and wasteful spending. Also take into account government hiring practices. They are less concerned with hiring skilled, highly qualified workers and more concerned with diversity and hiring based on ethnicity and demographics. "Uhhh yeah, you have an excellent resume but unfortunately we're only looking to hire Native American pilots to meet our quota to make the tax payers happy..." Is this the kind of red tape you want to put up with for the rest of your career?
Also the government doesn't need to go bailing pilots out of their loans. I mean, yes it would be nice but we all need to realize that we are accountable for what we borrowed, and hopefully we were all conscious when we signed the dotted line for x amount of $$$ to go to flight school. We have to be responsible for we committed ourselves to.
Government intervention would take an already crippled industry and obliterate it into a wasteland of PC and endless paperwork (as if there isn't enough of that already).
So you are saying that diversity isn't a good thing? Your comments reek of racism and bigotry.
As for the debt forgiveness, most regional pilots who are saddled with huge student loans had no choice but to sign for the loan. It was their only way of reaching their dream of becoming an airline pilot. Are you willing to crush so many pilot's dreams? They are currently living with the burden of making a student loan payment that takes up the majority of their pay. They need help and it's insensitive to ignore their plight as they are constantly living in fear of defaulting on their loans and having that negative stigma haunt them when they try for a position with the major airlines.
09-10-2014, 07:21 AM
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Why would the government try to solve the regional "problem"???
They is no "problem", the system works perfectly by keeping wages artificially low! The government has no interest in making the traveling public pay more for tickets!
The system works so well because noobs are willing to work for chump change for the reasons...
- SJS
- The false promise of higher wages years later (of course you ll be COMAIRed before that happens).
- The golden ring of a legacy job...but you better hope it happens, otherwise you're just stuck at your regional waiting to be COMAIRed.
That's the hard facts of life boys....the gubmint and mainline are perfectly happy with the regional system the way it. Why would they possibly want to change anything?
They is no "problem", the system works perfectly by keeping wages artificially low! The government has no interest in making the traveling public pay more for tickets!
The system works so well because noobs are willing to work for chump change for the reasons...
- SJS
- The false promise of higher wages years later (of course you ll be COMAIRed before that happens).
- The golden ring of a legacy job...but you better hope it happens, otherwise you're just stuck at your regional waiting to be COMAIRed.
That's the hard facts of life boys....the gubmint and mainline are perfectly happy with the regional system the way it. Why would they possibly want to change anything?
09-10-2014, 07:32 AM
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