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Old 09-09-2014, 08:27 AM
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Where do you live or where do you want to live? Honestly, if you think that the regionals are going to be a short time thing for you (and given your background there's every reason to think that's accurate) pick one that has a base where you can drive to work.
Best advice you will ever get in this career. Not commuting vs. commuting makes it a completely different job.
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Originally Posted by HeavyDriver
Unless you have no problem living at the regional pay scale...With your background apply at all the major airlines and supplemental airlines...Try and Network within your community for employment leads or recs...I would avoid the regionals with your experience.
"With his experience?"

He only has 2000 hours. Sure it's military time but cmon. The regionals are a great place to get his feet wet in the 121 environment.

If you are expecting a short stay it won't really matter where you go. Like someone else said go to where you can live in base.

If you plan on spending a few years at your regional the choice probably becomes a little more complicated.
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Old 09-09-2014, 08:47 AM
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If you're looking at NYC bases I would consider CommutAir too. We have EWR and IAD bases. We're a turboprop operation but if you don't mind that it's a pretty good place to work. $30/hour first year pay, 4 free hotels in base per month, and upgrades around 2-2.5 years. PM me for additional info. Good luck!
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Old 09-09-2014, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Pilot2004
I have over 2000 hours and CFI/II, MEI and ATP.
Yeah even with mil. background at B6 you'll probably need another grand if not 2 grand on the hours. You might want to try the next VETS in Blue event if it's what your gunnin' for. Tbqh
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Old 09-09-2014, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by pagey
"With his experience?"

He only has 2000 hours. Sure it's military time but cmon. The regionals are a great place to get his feet wet in the 121 environment.
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2000 hours of Military flying makes a pilot more than qualified to apply and be competitive at a Major Airline. Especially against a 6000TT regional pilot...Beyond 5000TT seems to be where the Majors start to look away from a candidate anyway, but what do I know (as I'm reminded by the children of the magenta everyday) I've only been doing this for 30 years...
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Old 09-09-2014, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by HeavyDriver
2000 hours of Military flying makes a pilot more than qualified to apply and be competitive at a Major Airline
Actually, reading this board (and others), talkingto buddies, etc unless there's a bunch of additional boxes checked, that kind of time is a little on the low side for peer comparison/mil demographic.

FOR RIGHT NOW ANYWAY.

I know......I know......., we ALL know people getting hired with less than competitve times/quals. But I say AGAIN, for right here and right now, still on the lower end of scale in relation to flight time.

To the OP, as mentioned, go to vets in blue, get on facebook/linkedin and start networking and getting rec letters, try to find a buddy at UAL to get you a meet and greet, etc. Come later this fall and next spring, the hiring is going to pick up. Meaning the competitive stats/numbers are going to widen a bit. Unless you have a guard/reserve gig, it'll be currency you're after more than flight time.
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Old 09-09-2014, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by HeavyDriver
2000 hours of Military flying makes a pilot more than qualified to apply and be competitive at a Major Airline. Especially against a 6000TT regional pilot...Beyond 5000TT seems to be where the Majors start to look away from a candidate anyway, but what do I know (as I'm reminded by the children of the magenta everyday) I've only been doing this for 30 years...
I'm not going to sit here and debate the "quality of time" issue. Especially after the arrogance you have clearly shown in the above post

2000 hours simply isn't going to meet the requirements at most majors right now unless you are very well connected. Quality aside it's just not enough quantity.
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Old 09-09-2014, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by HeavyDriver
2000 hours of Military flying makes a pilot more than qualified to apply and be competitive at a Major Airline. Especially against a 6000TT regional pilot...Beyond 5000TT seems to be where the Majors start to look away from a candidate anyway, but what do I know (as I'm reminded by the children of the magenta everyday) I've only been doing this for 30 years...
Are you saying that if a regional guy (FO in particular) has 5000+ TT, that the majors / legacies start turning them away? I hope that's not the case.

Anyhow....

To the OP, like everyone else has said, commuting vs not commuting makes a big difference. If you find an airline that fits your personal needs, then shoot for that one. Envoy has a great, but senior pilot group. Great pilots there, very knowledgable, and ALL are willing to help their fellow pilots. There a LOT of veterans there, myself included. Quit a few P3 guys as well. There's a joint LGA / JFK base, as well as MIA (not sure how long MIA is going to last though). Things aren't going too well here right now, but we still have a decent contract, and 20 a month (minimum) flowing to AA, and the attrition is about to spike through the roof. This could be good, or bad for a new hire. Good, as it makes room ahead for you; Bad, if they attrit too fast without enough new hires coming in behind you, and the company decides to park more airplanes due to inability to staff them. You could be furlough fodder. You would probably be on reserve for a vey long time. Which could be good if you live in base, and want to have more time at home, but bad if you're trying to rack up hours quickly and get out. Which is what it seems your goal is.

PSA has all East coast bases, CLT, TYS, and DAY. Endeavor is probably your best bet of a NY base. PDT has smaller out station East coast bases, are getting jets and probably will have fast movement, but you'll probably be able to get your time and move on before you upgrade. Have you looked in to cargo?

One thing to keep in mind is; most people chose an airline that they thought they could move along quickly, get out, and get to a major / legacy as soon as they could. They didn't look into QOL issues too much, as they thought they would just suck it up, and be out In a few years anyway. Then something happens (9/11, oil price spikes, mergers and consolidation, ect...) that causes them to be stuck at that place for a lot longer than they had planned. Ask yourself if you could handle that place for longer than expected.
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Old 09-09-2014, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom
If you can hang at a regional, every place is better, including the Iraqi Airforce.
I heard they were hiring! Low mins, short reserve times, quick upgrades. My app is in
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Old 09-09-2014, 11:10 AM
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Commutair, actually a nice company. Stay away from Envoy, no future there.
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