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Old 08-24-2014, 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
No, I used 9 of 18 payback days I have and dropped 9 days for 63 hours, flew one 4 day for straight pay and have gotten two greenslips for 63+ (X2). I'm flying the second one starting tomorrow.

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What are payback days and greenslips?
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Old 08-24-2014, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by deltajuliet
What are payback days and greenslips?
At DAL, greenslips are trips accepted by the pilot for double pay. They are named for the green sheet of paper that you used to submit to volunteer for such trips (pre computers). I actually remember those days.

Payback days are accumulated in various ways, but generally by reserve lineholders working on days off. They can accumulate and Denny used them in a regular line month to drop and get paid for trips on his line. Then he "greenslipped" on those off days effectively getting something like "triple pay". Sweet move.
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Old 08-24-2014, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Check out Denny Crane's posts on the L&G thread the last couple days. He explains how he pulled off that moonshot.
I see, payback days. That explains it. I have a few of those in the bank but reserve days are always capped so I haven't been able to use them yet
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Old 08-24-2014, 08:40 AM
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Denny Crane is my new hero. I thought I was having a good month at 134.5 hrs credit! He'll triple my measly $23k this month! Living in base is key and knowing your contract. Couple months back I posted I'm averaging 105credit/mo. It's increased to 106 average. With the upcoming retirements, training bubble and next years fallout/displacements in the wide body world...combined with growth...Greenslips will continue to flow. Friendly word of advice to new hires: MOVE to base & do not commute!
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Old 08-24-2014, 08:43 AM
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Thanks for posting and gloating about your huge salaries in the regional forum while the guys that actually work in the regionals are going through bankruptcy and relying on food stamps/govt aid just to make ends meet.
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Old 08-24-2014, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Bzzt
I'm already done with the industry, but I do understand the job fairs are necessary, I just wasn't going to waste the money and wait in lines for hours to have some recruiter look at my resume and say I didn't have enough time. I haven't had a fri-sun off in 2 years anyway so no matter what I couldn't have gone. If you get bored feel free to pm me the details you're talking about, I enjoy reading and would like to read what you have to say.

To the Delta trainer guy that's some good info, thanks for sharing.
I have read many of your post and see your point of view on the Eagle/Envoy issue with regards to the contract votes. What I am having trouble seeing is your surrender in regards to the career.

So you haven't had weekends off in 2 years? I have 27 years with my airline and I don't get always get weekends off. While I have been at a major it has been one hurdle after another and very few peaceful times. We have had an ESOP, 9/11, BK, parking of whole fleets after 9/11, 3 real contracts and 2 concessionary contracts during that period. There has been SARS, Bird Flu, Oil Spike, Gulf War I and II, RJ's flying our routes, Merger, Seniority list integration and a thousand other changes that have taken place. It is not all rainbows and unicorns at the major carrier. You need to have a backbone and most importantly a love of flying to do this job.

What I see is you giving up after such a short period in the industry after things not going to your plan. If you were to ever decide to get back in with the hopes of landing a major airline job I don't think anyone would hire you based on you leaving the industry. The interview folks will bury you with your lack of dedication to the job.

Good luck in whatever venture you choose but keep in mind unless you are ultra rich you will always face struggles in life no matter what field you are working. it is how you handle to those challenges that will define you as a person.

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Old 08-24-2014, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Lambourne
I have read many of your post and see your point of view on the Eagle/Envoy issue with regards to the contract votes. What I am having trouble seeing is your surrender in regards to the career.

So you haven't had weekends off in 2 years? I have 27 years with my airline and I don't get always get weekends off. While I have been at a major it has been one hurdle after another and very few peaceful times. We have had an ESOP, 9/11, BK, parking of whole fleets after 9/11, 3 real contracts and 2 concessionary contracts during that period. There has been SARS, Bird Flu, Oil Spike, Gulf War I and II, RJ's flying our routes, Merger, Seniority list integration and a thousand other changes that have taken place. It is not all rainbows and unicorns at the major carrier. You need to have a backbone and most importantly a love of flying to do this job.

What I see is you giving up after such a short period in the industry after things not going to your plan. If you were to ever decide to get back in with the hopes of landing a major airline job I don't think anyone would hire you based on you leaving the industry. The interview folks will bury you with your lack of dedication to the job.

Good luck in whatever venture you choose but keep in mind unless you are ultra rich you will always face struggles in life no matter what field you are working. it is how you handle to those challenges that will define you as a person.

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I don't love flying, I never did. I started this career in hopes of working as little as possible, I've said that before. I will not be competitive for a major job for at least 5 years, my honest guess is 8. By that time so many guys will have been hired who are younger than me I'll never achieve the goal I set out for in the first place. That is why I'm leaving, I do appreciate the perspective though, I understand life is difficult. By the way, the not having a weekend off was one of my reasons for being unable to attend a job fair, I don't really care about weekends, I don't have kids and my wife works Saturday and Sunday.

Again thanks for the insight, I appreciate when major guys give their point of view.
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Old 08-24-2014, 09:43 AM
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Anyone who tries flying because they want "more time off" or more money is sadly mistaken. The ONLY reason to pursue aviation is a a deep, abiding love of flying and everything that goes with it. It is not an easy path.

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Old 08-24-2014, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by RetireAlready
Thanks for posting and gloating about your huge salaries in the regional forum while the guys that actually work in the regionals are going through bankruptcy and relying on food stamps/govt aid just to make ends meet.
Gloating? No, not gloating. Just grinding it out in a profession I love. The money is amazing. The work is rewarding. The equipment and working conditions are top notch. Those who endure will enjoy the fruit of their journey.
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Originally Posted by Bzzt
I don't love flying, I never did. I started this career in hopes of working as little as possible, I've said that before.
Wow.
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