Toughest Regional Interview
12-26-2006, 09:42 AM
#12
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A discontinuance does not constitute a failure. Checkrides are discontinued all the time because of weather or aircraft malfunctions (almost had to discontinue my MEI checkride when the engine wouldn't restart
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12-26-2006, 02:19 PM
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freezingflyboy:
That is a great question and one that strikes home for me. I just happened to fail that exact checkride (lucky for me it was my only one).
all i can say to answer your question is I Dont Know.
I have been told by both people at UND and people on interview boards that i do not have to disclose that. Generally I tell them about that one anyway. When they ask me if I received a rating or cert. upon completion I tell them that "I did not imediately receive a rating upon successful completion of that checkride." Then i have to explain how UND works their system. That is usually when they tell me they dont care about that check ride and i dont need to tell people about it.
Exx
That is a great question and one that strikes home for me. I just happened to fail that exact checkride (lucky for me it was my only one).
all i can say to answer your question is I Dont Know.
I have been told by both people at UND and people on interview boards that i do not have to disclose that. Generally I tell them about that one anyway. When they ask me if I received a rating or cert. upon completion I tell them that "I did not imediately receive a rating upon successful completion of that checkride." Then i have to explain how UND works their system. That is usually when they tell me they dont care about that check ride and i dont need to tell people about it.
Exx
12-26-2006, 02:28 PM
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Correct me if im wrong, but dont failed checkrides and completed checkrides show up on your FAA records at the offices in Oklahoma City. If they do, then perhaps that is a better indicator of what info to disclose. So if its on there tell em about it, if not then no worries
12-27-2006, 07:54 AM
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freezingflyboy:
That is a great question and one that strikes home for me. I just happened to fail that exact checkride (lucky for me it was my only one).
all i can say to answer your question is I Dont Know.
I have been told by both people at UND and people on interview boards that i do not have to disclose that. Generally I tell them about that one anyway. When they ask me if I received a rating or cert. upon completion I tell them that "I did not imediately receive a rating upon successful completion of that checkride." Then i have to explain how UND works their system. That is usually when they tell me they dont care about that check ride and i dont need to tell people about it.
Exx
That is a great question and one that strikes home for me. I just happened to fail that exact checkride (lucky for me it was my only one).
all i can say to answer your question is I Dont Know.
I have been told by both people at UND and people on interview boards that i do not have to disclose that. Generally I tell them about that one anyway. When they ask me if I received a rating or cert. upon completion I tell them that "I did not imediately receive a rating upon successful completion of that checkride." Then i have to explain how UND works their system. That is usually when they tell me they dont care about that check ride and i dont need to tell people about it.
Exx
12-27-2006, 08:16 AM
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I can see it both ways. On the one hand, you don't fill out an 8710 until your Commercial, Multi, Instrument checkride. But if you look at your certificate, you are now a Commercial Single- and Multi-Engine, Instrument Airplane pilot. So my question is this: When did your Commercial Single-Engine checkride take place? The entire checkride took place in a Seminole so it can't have happened then. Did it happen the previous semester when you finished your commercial-single engine course even though no 8710 was filled out? Any thoughts?
12-27-2006, 08:23 AM
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If you go through the entire course at UND you will only fill out 4 8710s:
Private
Commercial- ME, SE, IA
CFI
CFII
12-27-2006, 09:03 AM
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Looking back in my logbook, Stage checks (except for end of course checks) weren't sat/unsat events. They were complete/incomplete events. The only failures that you need to report (IMHO) are the ones which 8710s were filled out, or failures/unsats in an advanced training environment (like SIC airline checkride)
12-27-2006, 12:48 PM
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I can see it both ways. On the one hand, you don't fill out an 8710 until your Commercial, Multi, Instrument checkride. But if you look at your certificate, you are now a Commercial Single- and Multi-Engine, Instrument Airplane pilot. So my question is this: When did your Commercial Single-Engine checkride take place? The entire checkride took place in a Seminole so it can't have happened then. Did it happen the previous semester when you finished your commercial-single engine course even though no 8710 was filled out? Any thoughts?
again, i was just offering up some of my own experiences and what i have been told in the past. hopefully im not too far off base
12-27-2006, 12:58 PM
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it is only a checkride for a certificate or rating. So if you messed up your private stage 3, but passed the checkride the first time- you did not fail. The issue is that many 141 schools can use an "I" -Incomplete- for a bad stage check. So if you passed every checkride the first time you get to mark "no" for failures. Thats at least how I understand it.
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