Majors To Absorb Regionals In The Future?
05-07-2014, 08:50 AM
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Members have been saying here that many regional FO's have been getting hired by majors while captains get passed over.
Couple that with the fact that due to the regional industry's erratic and arguably less stable nature you might find 25 year comair captains amongst the ranks and FO's waiting a decade to upgrade in some stagnated/furlough-prone companies. I don't think that supports your generalization.
05-07-2014, 10:35 AM
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You made some excellent points in your post. This one, in my opinion, is not one of them.
Members have been saying here that many regional FO's have been getting hired by majors while captains get passed over.
Couple that with the fact that due to the regional industry's erratic and arguably less stable nature you might find 25 year comair captains amongst the ranks and FO's waiting a decade to upgrade in some stagnated/furlough-prone companies. I don't think that supports your generalization.
Members have been saying here that many regional FO's have been getting hired by majors while captains get passed over.
Couple that with the fact that due to the regional industry's erratic and arguably less stable nature you might find 25 year comair captains amongst the ranks and FO's waiting a decade to upgrade in some stagnated/furlough-prone companies. I don't think that supports your generalization.
So, take a captain=need to find 2 more pilots. Just take and FO and only need to replace 1.
So, don't fool yourself that they're only taking the most experienced from regionals. It makes no math/staffing sense.
05-07-2014, 12:54 PM
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mesasbah,
Do you really think the majors just chose the "military style" CRM, then one day chose the current standard? You need to learn some aviation history before spouting off. Hint: it wasn't a choice; what you call "military style" CRM was the way cockpits were run for decades regardless of the crew background. As we're operating rooms, bridges on ships, civil and miltary and a host of other crew-based teams. TheY're all learning from years of research on human factors.
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05-08-2014, 08:49 AM
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They are hiring FOs, particularly if the major the FO is going to is the customer of that regional. They know if they take FOs, their regional supplier will only have to replace that FO. If they take a captain, their regional supplier will need to replace that captain AND an FO.
So, take a captain=need to find 2 more pilots. Just take and FO and only need to replace 1.
So, don't fool yourself that they're only taking the most experienced from regionals. It makes no math/staffing sense.
So, take a captain=need to find 2 more pilots. Just take and FO and only need to replace 1.
So, don't fool yourself that they're only taking the most experienced from regionals. It makes no math/staffing sense.
In no way does your math make sense. If one CA leaves they upgrade one F/O, and hire an F/O. There is a "training" bubble" of sorts but it doesn't necessitate hiring another pilot, certainly not a 1:1 ratio.
If what you said is true, why did my new hire class have only CA's, and half were from their regional carriers? And that number doesn't include any flows.
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