View Poll Results: Did you know?
Yes I knew that
19
14.07%
No I didn't know that
116
85.93%
Voters: 135. You may not vote on this poll
How informed are regional airline pilots?
04-30-2014, 06:05 PM
#1
Gets Weekends Off
Thread Starter
Joined APC: Feb 2013
Posts: 3,011
How informed are regional airline pilots?
Take the poll and be honest.
How many of you knew at least a few days in advance that Bryan Bedford, the Regional Airline Association, and ALPA would be testifying before Congress today on the "pilot shortage" problem?
How many of you knew at least a few days in advance that Bryan Bedford, the Regional Airline Association, and ALPA would be testifying before Congress today on the "pilot shortage" problem?
04-30-2014, 06:54 PM
#2
Line Holder
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Posts: 44
Not me....
From my other post: pilots allows them to steam roll congress with minimal flack from pilots themselves and their unions. You all know what their grand plan is, don't you? They will push for lower hours AND/OR push to allow foreign pilots in. Wait till Aug hits, then you will see them parking more planes to foster panic so that the public will then start screaming to the congress/senators while the owners sit back and laugh. It will get pushed through, one way or another. Plus you know they are greasing the politicians through their PAC's. Yep, hell of a system we got.
Let's face it, they (owners) are better organized and count on lazy pilot unions and pilots too tired from long days and commutes to lift a finger to fight them. Want proof? Go to the Regional Airline Assoc website, and look for the lobbying info. Then go to your union webpage, and look for their lobbying info.
All the union has to do is post the names of the congressmen with emails/fax/mail and a simple form letter, post it to their pilots, and hit send. How hard is that?
In fact, where the hell are the lobbyist that the unions are bribing? They should know about this stuff and be keeping union leaders "in the know", who should have already sent mail to the pilots regarding this.
Makes you wonder if the unions are doing all they can with the dues they collect, or if they are not paid off by management to do just enough to look like they care.
Let's face it, they (owners) are better organized and count on lazy pilot unions and pilots too tired from long days and commutes to lift a finger to fight them. Want proof? Go to the Regional Airline Assoc website, and look for the lobbying info. Then go to your union webpage, and look for their lobbying info.
All the union has to do is post the names of the congressmen with emails/fax/mail and a simple form letter, post it to their pilots, and hit send. How hard is that?
In fact, where the hell are the lobbyist that the unions are bribing? They should know about this stuff and be keeping union leaders "in the know", who should have already sent mail to the pilots regarding this.
Makes you wonder if the unions are doing all they can with the dues they collect, or if they are not paid off by management to do just enough to look like they care.
Last edited by Gjet; 04-30-2014 at 07:26 PM.
04-30-2014, 07:02 PM
#3
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2008
Position: forever fo
Posts: 2,413
Keeping this from pilots allows them to steam roll congress with minimal flack from pilots themselves and their unions. You all know what their grand plan is, don't you? They will push for lower hours AND/OR push to allow foreign pilots in. Wait till Aug hits, then you will see them parking more planes to foster panic so that the public will then start screaming to the congress/senators while the owners sit back and laugh. It will get pushed through, one way or another. Plus you know they are greasing the politicians through their PAC's. Yep, hell of a system we got.
Let's face it, they (owners) are better organized and count on lazy pilot unions and pilots too tired from long days and commutes to lift a finger to fight them. Want proof? Go to the Regional Airline Assoc website, and look for the lobbying info. Then go to your union webpage, and look for their lobbying info.
All the union has to do is post the names of the congressmen with emails/fax/mail and a simple form letter, post it to their pilots, and hit send. How hard is that?
In fact, where the hell are the lobbyist that the unions are bribing? They should know about this stuff and be keeping union leaders "in the know", who should have already sent mail to the pilots regarding this.
Makes you wonder if the unions are doing all they can with the dues they collect, or if they are not paid off by management to do just enough to look like they care.
Let's face it, they (owners) are better organized and count on lazy pilot unions and pilots too tired from long days and commutes to lift a finger to fight them. Want proof? Go to the Regional Airline Assoc website, and look for the lobbying info. Then go to your union webpage, and look for their lobbying info.
All the union has to do is post the names of the congressmen with emails/fax/mail and a simple form letter, post it to their pilots, and hit send. How hard is that?
In fact, where the hell are the lobbyist that the unions are bribing? They should know about this stuff and be keeping union leaders "in the know", who should have already sent mail to the pilots regarding this.
Makes you wonder if the unions are doing all they can with the dues they collect, or if they are not paid off by management to do just enough to look like they care.
Why aren't we getting those forms. The 1% have hijacked this country, and we all are stuck riding this flight into the ground.
Alpa national needs to be revamped at the next bod meeting. The two guys from eagle b Cohet and d maxhim are not helping any of us. If our own guys aren't imagine what the main line guys are doing. We all need to get more grass root going. Alpa needs a hard flush.
04-30-2014, 07:10 PM
#4
Gets Weekends Off
Thread Starter
Joined APC: Feb 2013
Posts: 3,011
Keeping this from pilots allows them to steam roll congress with minimal flack from pilots themselves and their unions. You all know what their grand plan is, don't you? They will push for lower hours AND/OR push to allow foreign pilots in. Wait till Aug hits, then you will see them parking more planes to foster panic so that the public will then start screaming to the congress/senators while the owners sit back and laugh. It will get pushed through, one way or another. Plus you know they are greasing the politicians through their PAC's. Yep, hell of a system we got.
Let's face it, they (owners) are better organized and count on lazy pilot unions and pilots too tired from long days and commutes to lift a finger to fight them. Want proof? Go to the Regional Airline Assoc website, and look for the lobbying info. Then go to your union webpage, and look for their lobbying info.
All the union has to do is post the names of the congressmen with emails/fax/mail and a simple form letter, post it to their pilots, and hit send. How hard is that?
In fact, where the hell are the lobbyist that the unions are bribing? They should know about this stuff and be keeping union leaders "in the know", who should have already sent mail to the pilots regarding this.
Makes you wonder if the unions are doing all they can with the dues they collect, or if they are not paid off by management to do just enough to look like they care.
Let's face it, they (owners) are better organized and count on lazy pilot unions and pilots too tired from long days and commutes to lift a finger to fight them. Want proof? Go to the Regional Airline Assoc website, and look for the lobbying info. Then go to your union webpage, and look for their lobbying info.
All the union has to do is post the names of the congressmen with emails/fax/mail and a simple form letter, post it to their pilots, and hit send. How hard is that?
In fact, where the hell are the lobbyist that the unions are bribing? They should know about this stuff and be keeping union leaders "in the know", who should have already sent mail to the pilots regarding this.
Makes you wonder if the unions are doing all they can with the dues they collect, or if they are not paid off by management to do just enough to look like they care.
+1
04-30-2014, 07:23 PM
#5
Line Holder
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Posts: 44
And one more thing...
In this day of instant communication, isn't there master pilot email lists? Can't we put a letter together among the pilots and then send it to the MEC's to wake their azzzs up?
What, are they going to get upset and fire or blackball me from this crappy job if I do rally the troops? There's more to life than living scared, starving and waiting for the scraps that the union leaders have left us pilots with, after they have taken their payoffs. They can't keep doing that if they are voted out, or recalled. Just sayin...
What, are they going to get upset and fire or blackball me from this crappy job if I do rally the troops? There's more to life than living scared, starving and waiting for the scraps that the union leaders have left us pilots with, after they have taken their payoffs. They can't keep doing that if they are voted out, or recalled. Just sayin...
04-30-2014, 08:20 PM
#7
Line Holder
Joined APC: Aug 2008
Position: 717 FO
Posts: 28
04-30-2014, 09:45 PM
#9
Line Holder
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Posts: 44
Re: Alpa at the hill (thanks for that link!)
After reading the testimony of Lee Moak, I have to say, he couldn't have done a better speech. About time.
I do however, stand by my view that ALPA blew a huge opportunity. Imagine having 51,000 pilots contacting the US House of Representatives with their thoughts? That would have driven home the point that Mr. Moak is trying to make and reminded the Representatives that people, not companies, vote these Reps in or out of office.
After reading the testimony of Lee Moak, I have to say, he couldn't have done a better speech. About time.
I do however, stand by my view that ALPA blew a huge opportunity. Imagine having 51,000 pilots contacting the US House of Representatives with their thoughts? That would have driven home the point that Mr. Moak is trying to make and reminded the Representatives that people, not companies, vote these Reps in or out of office.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Lbell911
Regional
23
04-22-2012 10:33 AM
