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Old 04-16-2014, 06:33 PM
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No not TH. TH gives a pretty fair ride.
Well, he's the guy that asked me "that," and he's a complete loose cannon. What a freaking train wreck.
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Old 04-16-2014, 06:46 PM
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My TH experience prior to initial PC...

"There are three types of flyers in this world. 5% are aviators who always go above and beyond. 10% are pilots who are consistent. The remaining 85% are certificate holders who only can pass a check ride." I, myself, am an aviator. Which one are you? And you better hope you aren't a certificate holder or you are going to have a tough time."

I'm glad if he is no longer putting people through the hell that was his PC.
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Old 04-16-2014, 07:43 PM
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I always like TH. He always threw a few little gotchas but they never came across as items he would bust you on. I didn't like that muscle head that quit a few years ago, he looked like a damn tater tot with a set of arms, and seemed that ego of being an ex cop spilled over into his training sessions.
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Old 04-16-2014, 07:53 PM
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Like someone said, he was/is a loose cannon. If ya caught him on a good day maybe it wasn't so bad. On a bad day...watch out! Something I've learned even prior to my 9E days, ex-cops and civilian aviation are not a good mix!
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Old 04-16-2014, 07:57 PM
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That "muscle head" you speak of is one of the best assets the training department had back then IMHO. He could come across as an arrogant dude, mainly because of his physical appearance (yes, he worked out a lot.), but once you traded 2 words with him you realize he was a cool cat.

I had him several times on the Jumpseat, and in the sim. He's a good guy.

Him and GF (head of standards back then) where the only 2 members of the North Mississippi Flying Club that actually tried to shake off the bad reputation the other members gave themselves by not being total arrogant tools...
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Old 04-16-2014, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by pa28dakota
Like someone said, he was/is a loose cannon. If ya caught him on a good day maybe it wasn't so bad. On a bad day...watch out! Something I've learned even prior to my 9E days, ex-cops and civilian aviation are not a good mix!
No kidding.. he went out of his way to make sure the ride was a pain in the butt. My type ride was 4 freaking hours...and he could only uncover one debrief item that entire time. Just rode me because he could. And that's your immature training department in a nutshell right there.
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Old 04-16-2014, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by tom11011
The very nature of technology would suggest we will be seeing single pilot cockpits in airliners in the near future. The pilot shortage may very well be a catalyst. It wouldn't surprise me if companies like Boeing are spending R&D dollars looking at this. IE- who will be the first to profit from this model? Boeing or Airbus. It's a threat to the status quo but ultimately the numbers will prove out its safer and more cost effective.

I think where the argument gets interesting are those situations where a procedure or checklist hasn't been created for. A computer can't hope to cope with a situation it is not programmed for, that's where the human element comes into play, the desire to survive, think out of the box creatively, and cope with situations where there is no training, only experience and judgment. Take the United Airlines / Captain Al Haynes story for example as a prime example. In that particular accident, it took more than the minimum crew to get the airplane on the ground.

In summary, I suspect the same conversations occurred back when talk of switching away from 3 crew airplanes to 2 crew was the topic of the day.
My view..

There will either be 2 pilot airplanes or 0 pilot airplanes. Not single pilot. It doesn't make sense. A single pilot airliner would have to be designed to function without a pilot at all. And if it can do that, why put a pilot there in the first place?

Any critical system has a backup. A pilot is, currently, a critical system.

For the 3 crew vs 2.... airliners have (mostly) always had 2 pilots. They just started out with navigators, radio operators, engineers, etc. Slowly those positions got replaced by computers and the pilots themselves, but there has always been 2 pilots.
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Old 04-16-2014, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by lolwut
My view..

There will either be 2 pilot airplanes or 0 pilot airplanes. Not single pilot. It doesn't make sense. A single pilot airliner would have to be designed to function without a pilot at all. And if it can do that, why put a pilot there in the first place?

Any critical system has a backup. A pilot is, currently, a critical system.

For the 3 crew vs 2.... airliners have (mostly) always had 2 pilots. They just started out with navigators, radio operators, engineers, etc. Slowly those positions got replaced by computers and the pilots themselves, but there has always been 2 pilots.
In a single pilot operation, the one pilot's only function is to make sure the systems are working, and secure. They would do no flying, just verification work.
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Old 04-17-2014, 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
No kidding.. he went out of his way to make sure the ride was a pain in the butt. My type ride was 4 freaking hours...and he could only uncover one debrief item that entire time. Just rode me because he could. And that's your immature training department in a nutshell right there.
I think it has gotten better... in the past it was definitely staffed by the type of person who while in flight school was angry that normal dudes were bangin sluts and railin ruts while they were geekin out about airplanes with their other buttbuddies.

It was very punitive on a very petty level. You learned essentially nothing of value.

THe type of person that needs to head our taining department is M VanA. Learned more from him on one loft than the rest of my training events at 9e combined.
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Old 04-17-2014, 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
And that was my immature training department in a nutshell right there.
Fixed it for you.
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