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Old 12-21-2006, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by JetJock16
Yes, I am very interested in a positive relationship between ASA and SKW pilots so that we can continue to build toward our future. Jerry will continue to lead us with great success; he has proven that he is more about the airline’s success then his own. If you look at our administrative cost you will see that it is among the lowest. Jerry doesn’t pay himself to the point that he drains his airline of profit.
Maybe instead of a union, you guys should just form a cult religion, making Jerry your god, and instead of wine and communion, you can just drink that kool-aide that he is already feeding you...
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Old 12-21-2006, 10:31 AM
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I have NEVER met an Ex-SkyWest pilot who was disgruntle or did not like the airline and I've met many. I personally feel that you’re making up the story to strengthen your position. Why do I say that, read your postings and you'll see how big of a joke you are. Arrogant? Take a look in the mirror; it's you who are calling yourself better than us not the reverse.
Well swing by an XJT crew room some time because I have definitely met a few. I'm not sure what other things you think I have said that I made up. Perhaps you could enlighten me... Because to the best of my knowledge I have read most of my own posts...

Originally Posted by JetJock16
This thread was meant to get ASA pilots talking about the positive future, not XJT pilot wiping out there tiny DI*KS. Get real guys, I have no beef with XJT but apparently your afraid of our 34+ years of success and profit that is obviously continuing. Yes, 34+ years of absolute success and profit, your company can’t even hold a candle to that, seeing that XJT was founded in 86 (SKW 72). If you do your research you’ll see that SKW is consistently one of the most profitable regionals. Posting Q profit that exceed XJT and that’s with out adding in ASA’s numbers.

http://www.bts.gov/press_releases/20...bts060_06.html

SKW will never be like Mesa, history with Jerry has proven that.
Maybe instead of trying to pump up your ASA "brothers" with rhetoric and empty promises of growth, you SkyWest guys should stand with them and quit letting management rob and beat the ASA guys senseless. Oh wait, if you spoke your mind in a manner so as to contradict your vaunted Mr. Jerry you could be fired, couldn't you? All they have to say is that you "have a record of insubordination" and you are out on your arse. Sure, you could get a lawyer and fight to get your job back but it's going to cost you a lot more than it would cost Mr. Jerry. Thats your at will employment for ya. And nice dig about our tiny XJT d!cks, real adult and professional.

I'm not afraid of your COMPANY'S (not yours) profits, why would I be? What I am afraid of is the fact that the pilot group at one of the largest regional airlines in the industry does not have the BALLS to stand up and get what they are worth from a company who BY YOUR OWN ADMISSION has been wildly profitable throughout its entire history. Do you see anything wrong with that? And you're right, we can't hold a record to your 34 years of profitability because XJT did not exist until 5 years ago. Before that we were part of CAL in the same way Eagle is part of AA. Before that we were 5 independent airlines. So why don't you do YOUR research before you start lecturing US.

Listen JetJock...You're still among the worst paid 70 and 90 seat drivers and about average for 50 seat drivers yet your company is one of the most profitable. Don't you see anything wrong with that? You're recent raise JUST NOW brings you in line with Mesa's 900 rates. Good for you letting Mr. Jerry and Co. keep your money. Why don't you compare your 900 rates to NWA's DC-9 rates or AA's old F100 rates? You may or may not remember but when the DC-9-10's were still flying they were configured for 86 seats. The F100s for 97. How do you feel about your 900s now? Be sure to smile big for Mr. Jerry next time you suck him off.
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You Xjt pilots are getting pretty whiney too. Was it because CHQ took your flying? In fact Skywest was awarded that flying but it was only for 3 years and jerry said it wasn't worth the trouble of hiring and possibly furloughing in 3 years.

and just to warn you xjters. You won't get the frontier flying either just like you didn't get the midex stuff.
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Old 12-21-2006, 10:40 AM
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Saab, WOW, I though you would learn. Stop posting your ignorance. QOL? PAY? Man, maybe you should do a little research before you post next time. Yes our 90 seat rate is 1 or 2 dollars better then Mesa's but we blow them away on the 50/70 and Dash. They get 50% deadhead, no cancellation pay, average 7-12 days off, can get JR manned at a moments notice, plus many other travesties. We have 100%, a full pay for cancellations, and I have yet to meat a pilot who doesn't average 14 days off, I average 15-17. At SKW if you get 10 days off or less it’s because you bid it. Oh, I forgot, SKW can't mandatory JR man you. Add to it many other QOL policies and you'll see that your statement truly shows your ignorance.
Your contract is obviously better than Mesa but that doesn't change the fact that your hourly rates stink like sweaty balls.

I don't know of any airline that can mandatory junior man you. If its your day off and the company calls DON'T ANSWER YOUR PHONE!!! I never do. Let them leave a message. If you don't like what they have to say, don't call them back. On the other hand, I'll let them junior man me all day long if it means time and a half. Heck, that means I'm making almost as much as one of your 900 CA's...hmmm (I'm a 50 seat FO for reference).

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Are we the BEST in the industry, NO.? Obviously Horizon and your new contract are better than ours, but remember this industry is cyclonic and Jerry has proven that he wants to remain at the top, both as an airline and an employer.
Cyclonic huh... So it rotates in a counter clockwise motion with deepening low pressure? Not sure I have ever noticed that before...
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Old 12-21-2006, 10:44 AM
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You Xjt pilots are getting pretty whiney too. Was it because CHQ took your flying? In fact Skywest was awarded that flying but it was only for 3 years and jerry said it wasn't worth the trouble of hiring and possibly furloughing in 3 years.

and just to warn you xjters. You won't get the frontier flying either just like you didn't get the midex stuff.
And we didn't slit our throats to get it either. Anyone that doesn't think SkyWest boobs are arrogant, heres your proof.

Didn't Mr. Jerry also tell you guys he needed to pay you peanuts so that he could underbid and get more flying? Sounds like you were more than happy to do it.

Listen Slap... CHQ took CAL's flying, not ours. CAL thinks they got a better deal (even though CHQ's bid was more expensive than ours) but time will tell. The general consensus around CAL Land is that Larry Kellner is a moron. At the same time they removed flying from the CPA, they actually increased the amount of flying we are doing for them. So boo hoo, they are paying us more AND letting us have airplanes to try our own thing. I can't tell you how doomy and gloomy things have been around here.

Hows the cult?
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Old 12-21-2006, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by freezingflyboy
Cyclonic

Cyclic, simple typo. But I'm surprised with your intelligence you didn't pick up on it.
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Cyclic, simple typo. But I'm surprised with your intelligence you didn't pick up on it.
Uhhhh... I did pick up on your typo...thats why I called you on it. Did you ACTUALLY think I thought you were likening the airline industry to the flow of air around the Earth's surface? Maybe you should proof read next time.
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Old 12-21-2006, 10:58 AM
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Didn't Mr. Jerry also tell you guys he needed to pay you peanuts so that he could underbid and get more flying? Sounds like you were more than happy to do it.

Hows the cult?
We are not the lowest bidder, just the best overall. Plus, enjoy your TA victory, it wasn't that long ago that your pay was right with ours, or have you already forgotten. With the exception of first year pay we were with in a $1 or 2. But when you add our credits & bonuses we exceed you. I block 84-86 and usually be paid mid to upper 90's as well as the average CA gets $800 a quater. That's not reflected in our hourly rate but it is on our W2's.
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Old 12-21-2006, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by freezingflyboy
Uhhhh... I did pick up on your typo...thats why I called you on it. Did you ACTUALLY think I thought you were likening the airline industry to the flow of air around the Earth's surface? Maybe you should proof read next time.
Get real, it's impossible to catch all errors.
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Originally Posted by JetJock16
We are not the lowest bidder, just the best overall. Plus, enjoy your TA victory, it wasn't that long ago that your pay was right with ours, or have you already forgotten. With the exception of first year pay we were with in a $1 or 2. But when you add our credits & bonuses we exceed you. I block 84-86 and usually be paid mid to upper 90's as well as the average CA gets $800 a quater. That's not reflected in our hourly rate but it is on our W2's.
We get profit sharing too bud, and on-time bonuses. Just so happens we get our profit sharing once a year and our on-time bonuses every month, not every quarter like y'all. If I'm working hard I usually am looking at block pay for the month over 100 once you count deadheads and the like. I'm still not convinced you get the better deal.

And one more time... YOUR RATES FOR 700 AND 900 FLYING ARE STILL ROUGHLY WHAT WE GET PAID FOR 50 SEAT FLYING!!!
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