RAH TA Letter
03-07-2014, 11:01 AM
#23
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
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Posts: 771
I hope they tell management and their union to shove it. This industry needs to be fixed, there is a lot of momentum on our side, and if it doesn't happen now, it likely won't ever. XJT and Eagle had cast their votes, it should be easy for Republic, to do the same, with confidence, them being the last ones.
03-07-2014, 02:43 PM
#24
New Hire
Thread Starter
Joined APC: Jun 2010
Posts: 5
RAH 2014 TA:
Min day: (Line holder) 4.0 (1 day)
Min day: (Reserve) 4; 5 for airport standby
Duty Rig: 1:2.5 (actual)
Trip Rig: 1:4.2 (actual)
Cancellation Pay: Trip by trip with plus up
Deadhead Pay: 75% scheduled (actual on company)
Taxi Pay: 15 min; 30 min in Hubs; Or rig credit
Per Diem: $1.80; $1.90 DOS+2; $2.00 DOS+4
Minimum Guarantee: 75 Hours
Premium Pay: 125% time over 87 hours
Reserve Call out: 120 minutes
Min Days off: 12 Lineholder; 11 Reserve
Junior Manning: None
Skywest (2011 Policy handbook)
Min day (Line holder): 3.57
Min day (Reserve): 3.57
Duty Rig: 1:2 up to 12 hours (Scheduled)
Trip Rig: None
Cancellation Pay: Shift Cancellation
Deadhead Pay: 100% scheduled
Taxi Pay: 12 minutes; 30 min ORD
Per Diem: $1.75
Minimum Guarantee: 75 Hours; 80 EMB120 Lineholder
Premium Pay: None
Reserve Call out: 120 minutes
Min Days off: 11 in 31 day month; 10 for 30 day
Junior Manning: Yes: 150% pay
We get almost everything we need and want in this TA, while our peers have only some or mostly none of what the TA has in the way of rigs and protection.
The only thing that would be concessionary about this TA would be to turn it down and languish in the weeds forever while our E-Board and our incompetent leader gets us nothing, just like they have done for years now.
Now is the time to get a contract--not because we are tired of waiting, but because this TA is remarkably good IMHO.
03-07-2014, 05:46 PM
#25
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2007
Posts: 103
A friend of mine sent me this comparison:
RAH 2014 TA:
Min day: (Line holder) 4.0 (1 day)
Min day: (Reserve) 4; 5 for airport standby
Duty Rig: 1:2.5 (actual)
Trip Rig: 1:4.2 (actual)
Cancellation Pay: Trip by trip with plus up
Deadhead Pay: 75% scheduled (actual on company)
Taxi Pay: 15 min; 30 min in Hubs; Or rig credit
Per Diem: $1.80; $1.90 DOS+2; $2.00 DOS+4
Minimum Guarantee: 75 Hours
Premium Pay: 125% time over 87 hours
Reserve Call out: 120 minutes
Min Days off: 12 Lineholder; 11 Reserve
Junior Manning: None
Skywest (2011 Policy handbook)
Min day (Line holder): 3.57
Min day (Reserve): 3.57
Duty Rig: 1:2 up to 12 hours (Scheduled)
Trip Rig: None
Cancellation Pay: Shift Cancellation
Deadhead Pay: 100% scheduled
Taxi Pay: 12 minutes; 30 min ORD
Per Diem: $1.75
Minimum Guarantee: 75 Hours; 80 EMB120 Lineholder
Premium Pay: None
Reserve Call out: 120 minutes
Min Days off: 11 in 31 day month; 10 for 30 day
Junior Manning: Yes: 150% pay
We get almost everything we need and want in this TA, while our peers have only some or mostly none of what the TA has in the way of rigs and protection.
The only thing that would be concessionary about this TA would be to turn it down and languish in the weeds forever while our E-Board and our incompetent leader gets us nothing, just like they have done for years now.
Now is the time to get a contract--not because we are tired of waiting, but because this TA is remarkably good IMHO.
RAH 2014 TA:
Min day: (Line holder) 4.0 (1 day)
Min day: (Reserve) 4; 5 for airport standby
Duty Rig: 1:2.5 (actual)
Trip Rig: 1:4.2 (actual)
Cancellation Pay: Trip by trip with plus up
Deadhead Pay: 75% scheduled (actual on company)
Taxi Pay: 15 min; 30 min in Hubs; Or rig credit
Per Diem: $1.80; $1.90 DOS+2; $2.00 DOS+4
Minimum Guarantee: 75 Hours
Premium Pay: 125% time over 87 hours
Reserve Call out: 120 minutes
Min Days off: 12 Lineholder; 11 Reserve
Junior Manning: None
Skywest (2011 Policy handbook)
Min day (Line holder): 3.57
Min day (Reserve): 3.57
Duty Rig: 1:2 up to 12 hours (Scheduled)
Trip Rig: None
Cancellation Pay: Shift Cancellation
Deadhead Pay: 100% scheduled
Taxi Pay: 12 minutes; 30 min ORD
Per Diem: $1.75
Minimum Guarantee: 75 Hours; 80 EMB120 Lineholder
Premium Pay: None
Reserve Call out: 120 minutes
Min Days off: 11 in 31 day month; 10 for 30 day
Junior Manning: Yes: 150% pay
We get almost everything we need and want in this TA, while our peers have only some or mostly none of what the TA has in the way of rigs and protection.
The only thing that would be concessionary about this TA would be to turn it down and languish in the weeds forever while our E-Board and our incompetent leader gets us nothing, just like they have done for years now.
Now is the time to get a contract--not because we are tired of waiting, but because this TA is remarkably good IMHO.
You have read the language and see the GAPING holes in the language, right? I mean, the company would never use that against us. They would never argue when is a seat a seat, when is a base a base, what does "a pilot" mean.... and you are ok with being at the beck and call of scheduling? This is just to name a few things.....
I guess I just found out who my NO vote will negate.
03-07-2014, 05:53 PM
#27
Line Holder
Joined APC: Nov 2011
Posts: 80
So you think that getting the same FO pay regardless of equipment is remarkably good?
Cancellation pay by trip is remarkably good?
No minimum daily credit is remarkably good?
1:2.5 and 1:4.2 is remarkably good?
Please, these are below industry standard. Yes, below industry standard. Let alone industry leading!
VOTE NO!
03-07-2014, 09:30 PM
#28
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Joined APC: Sep 2006
Posts: 926
This is hard to keep straight...
The RAH pilots that actually participated in the IBT Airline Division Negotiating Committee overwhelmingly support the TA.
Meanwhile, the RAH Local 357 Executive Board starts their most recent Pay Day Update with the following sentence...
"After receiving the Negotiating Team’s presentation on Friday, February 21, 2014, and, after very deliberative
and careful consideration as to its merits in the last ten days, the Executive Board’s consensus is to put the TA to
a membership vote without comment."
How can the EBoard remain silent while the NC overwhelmingly endorses the TA? This is an incredibly conflicted message. One of the NC members is on the Eboard. How can he be silent in one letter to the membership and in support of the TA in another letter?
This is incredibly dysfunctional and a COMPLETE failure of leadership by the E-Board.
The RAH pilots that actually participated in the IBT Airline Division Negotiating Committee overwhelmingly support the TA.
Meanwhile, the RAH Local 357 Executive Board starts their most recent Pay Day Update with the following sentence...
"After receiving the Negotiating Team’s presentation on Friday, February 21, 2014, and, after very deliberative
and careful consideration as to its merits in the last ten days, the Executive Board’s consensus is to put the TA to
a membership vote without comment."
How can the EBoard remain silent while the NC overwhelmingly endorses the TA? This is an incredibly conflicted message. One of the NC members is on the Eboard. How can he be silent in one letter to the membership and in support of the TA in another letter?
This is incredibly dysfunctional and a COMPLETE failure of leadership by the E-Board.
It's pretty simple, actually.
03-07-2014, 09:34 PM
#29
Line Holder
Joined APC: Nov 2008
Position: Missionary
Posts: 27
A friend of mine sent me this comparison:
RAH 2014 TA:
Min day: (Line holder) 4.0 (1 day)
Min day: (Reserve) 4; 5 for airport standby
Duty Rig: 1:2.5 (actual)
Trip Rig: 1:4.2 (actual)
Cancellation Pay: Trip by trip with plus up
Deadhead Pay: 75% scheduled (actual on company)
Taxi Pay: 15 min; 30 min in Hubs; Or rig credit
Per Diem: $1.80; $1.90 DOS+2; $2.00 DOS+4
Minimum Guarantee: 75 Hours
Premium Pay: 125% time over 87 hours
Reserve Call out: 120 minutes
Min Days off: 12 Lineholder; 11 Reserve
Junior Manning: None
Skywest (2011 Policy handbook)
Min day (Line holder): 3.57
Min day (Reserve): 3.57
Duty Rig: 1:2 up to 12 hours (Scheduled)
Trip Rig: None
Cancellation Pay: Shift Cancellation
Deadhead Pay: 100% scheduled
Taxi Pay: 12 minutes; 30 min ORD
Per Diem: $1.75
Minimum Guarantee: 75 Hours; 80 EMB120 Lineholder
Premium Pay: None
Reserve Call out: 120 minutes
Min Days off: 11 in 31 day month; 10 for 30 day
Junior Manning: Yes: 150% pay
We get almost everything we need and want in this TA, while our peers have only some or mostly none of what the TA has in the way of rigs and protection.
The only thing that would be concessionary about this TA would be to turn it down and languish in the weeds forever while our E-Board and our incompetent leader gets us nothing, just like they have done for years now.
Now is the time to get a contract--not because we are tired of waiting, but because this TA is remarkably good IMHO.
RAH 2014 TA:
Min day: (Line holder) 4.0 (1 day)
Min day: (Reserve) 4; 5 for airport standby
Duty Rig: 1:2.5 (actual)
Trip Rig: 1:4.2 (actual)
Cancellation Pay: Trip by trip with plus up
Deadhead Pay: 75% scheduled (actual on company)
Taxi Pay: 15 min; 30 min in Hubs; Or rig credit
Per Diem: $1.80; $1.90 DOS+2; $2.00 DOS+4
Minimum Guarantee: 75 Hours
Premium Pay: 125% time over 87 hours
Reserve Call out: 120 minutes
Min Days off: 12 Lineholder; 11 Reserve
Junior Manning: None
Skywest (2011 Policy handbook)
Min day (Line holder): 3.57
Min day (Reserve): 3.57
Duty Rig: 1:2 up to 12 hours (Scheduled)
Trip Rig: None
Cancellation Pay: Shift Cancellation
Deadhead Pay: 100% scheduled
Taxi Pay: 12 minutes; 30 min ORD
Per Diem: $1.75
Minimum Guarantee: 75 Hours; 80 EMB120 Lineholder
Premium Pay: None
Reserve Call out: 120 minutes
Min Days off: 11 in 31 day month; 10 for 30 day
Junior Manning: Yes: 150% pay
We get almost everything we need and want in this TA, while our peers have only some or mostly none of what the TA has in the way of rigs and protection.
The only thing that would be concessionary about this TA would be to turn it down and languish in the weeds forever while our E-Board and our incompetent leader gets us nothing, just like they have done for years now.
Now is the time to get a contract--not because we are tired of waiting, but because this TA is remarkably good IMHO.
03-07-2014, 09:40 PM
#30
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2010
Position: Just another RJ guy
Posts: 906
A friend of mine sent me this comparison:
RAH 2014 TA:
Min day: (Line holder) 4.0 (1 day)
Min day: (Reserve) 4; 5 for airport standby
Duty Rig: 1:2.5 (actual)
Trip Rig: 1:4.2 (actual)
Cancellation Pay: Trip by trip with plus up
Deadhead Pay: 75% scheduled (actual on company)
Taxi Pay: 15 min; 30 min in Hubs; Or rig credit
Per Diem: $1.80; $1.90 DOS+2; $2.00 DOS+4
Minimum Guarantee: 75 Hours
Premium Pay: 125% time over 87 hours
Reserve Call out: 120 minutes
Min Days off: 12 Lineholder; 11 Reserve
Junior Manning: None
Skywest (2011 Policy handbook)
Min day (Line holder): 3.57
Min day (Reserve): 3.57
Duty Rig: 1:2 up to 12 hours (Scheduled)
Trip Rig: None
Cancellation Pay: Shift Cancellation
Deadhead Pay: 100% scheduled
Taxi Pay: 12 minutes; 30 min ORD
Per Diem: $1.75
Minimum Guarantee: 75 Hours; 80 EMB120 Lineholder
Premium Pay: None
Reserve Call out: 120 minutes
Min Days off: 11 in 31 day month; 10 for 30 day
Junior Manning: Yes: 150% pay
We get almost everything we need and want in this TA, while our peers have only some or mostly none of what the TA has in the way of rigs and protection.
The only thing that would be concessionary about this TA would be to turn it down and languish in the weeds forever while our E-Board and our incompetent leader gets us nothing, just like they have done for years now.
Now is the time to get a contract--not because we are tired of waiting, but because this TA is remarkably good IMHO.
RAH 2014 TA:
Min day: (Line holder) 4.0 (1 day)
Min day: (Reserve) 4; 5 for airport standby
Duty Rig: 1:2.5 (actual)
Trip Rig: 1:4.2 (actual)
Cancellation Pay: Trip by trip with plus up
Deadhead Pay: 75% scheduled (actual on company)
Taxi Pay: 15 min; 30 min in Hubs; Or rig credit
Per Diem: $1.80; $1.90 DOS+2; $2.00 DOS+4
Minimum Guarantee: 75 Hours
Premium Pay: 125% time over 87 hours
Reserve Call out: 120 minutes
Min Days off: 12 Lineholder; 11 Reserve
Junior Manning: None
Skywest (2011 Policy handbook)
Min day (Line holder): 3.57
Min day (Reserve): 3.57
Duty Rig: 1:2 up to 12 hours (Scheduled)
Trip Rig: None
Cancellation Pay: Shift Cancellation
Deadhead Pay: 100% scheduled
Taxi Pay: 12 minutes; 30 min ORD
Per Diem: $1.75
Minimum Guarantee: 75 Hours; 80 EMB120 Lineholder
Premium Pay: None
Reserve Call out: 120 minutes
Min Days off: 11 in 31 day month; 10 for 30 day
Junior Manning: Yes: 150% pay
We get almost everything we need and want in this TA, while our peers have only some or mostly none of what the TA has in the way of rigs and protection.
The only thing that would be concessionary about this TA would be to turn it down and languish in the weeds forever while our E-Board and our incompetent leader gets us nothing, just like they have done for years now.
Now is the time to get a contract--not because we are tired of waiting, but because this TA is remarkably good IMHO.
~Average min day = 4 hours at most regionals (line-holder and reserve)
~Average cancelation pay at most regionals is leg-by-leg pay. Endeavor has leg-by-leg plus up.
~Average DHD pay is 75% at most regionals (SKW has 100% in some cases)
~Average Per diem at most regionals is between $1.65-1.80. (A few cents isn't going to make this TA remarkable)
~Average min guarantee at most regionals is 75 hours (SKW is 80hours for E120)
~ Average at most most regionals critical pay/premium pay is between 150-200%.
~Average call out is 2 hours at most regionals
~Average min days off is 11 days at most regionals
There is nothing remarkable about this. You have ALL the leverage to get a truly remarkable industry leading contract that raises the bar. Do not settle.
And by average at most regionals I mean regionals that fly jets like you.
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