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Old 03-06-2014, 06:29 AM
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I can only suggest to the RAH pilots, after reading your TA, other than pay, your TA is worse than the AIP that the eagle MEC board voted NO to.

VOTE NO, but it is your choice whether to stand up straight or not. Remember, management has no place else to go to, both mainline and regional management are in the same position. Little wiggle room to screw the pilots over. They are all stealing each other's pilots to staff there current operations, eventually the bridge will collapse and all will be stuck for years where they are currently at that time.
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Old 03-06-2014, 07:24 AM
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This is hard to keep straight...

The RAH pilots that actually participated in the IBT Airline Division Negotiating Committee overwhelmingly support the TA.

Meanwhile, the RAH Local 357 Executive Board starts their most recent Pay Day Update with the following sentence...

"After receiving the Negotiating Team’s presentation on Friday, February 21, 2014, and, after very deliberative
and careful consideration as to its merits in the last ten days, the Executive Board’s consensus is to put the TA to
a membership vote without comment."

How can the EBoard remain silent while the NC overwhelmingly endorses the TA? This is an incredibly conflicted message. One of the NC members is on the Eboard. How can he be silent in one letter to the membership and in support of the TA in another letter?

This is incredibly dysfunctional and a COMPLETE failure of leadership by the E-Board.
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Old 03-06-2014, 07:32 AM
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This sounds very familiar... oh yeah!! XJT ALPA pushing it. Look what happened to them? Recalled and fresh blood. Is it just me or are union members entirely disconnected from the line pilots? Not flying the line, living life in a cushy office, earning 120 credit hours a month has gone too far. Fight on RAH friends!
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Old 03-06-2014, 07:44 AM
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If you vote this in you will put this career into ruins.

XJT put their money where their mouth was and voted hell no. we are rolling the dice hoping everyone else will do the same. Can't find enough pilots
EGL put their money where their mouth was and voted hell no. They are rolling the dice with their careers hoping everyone else will do the same. Can't find enough pilots.

It is your turn. This vote will determine WAY more than YOUR future.

They have no respect for you. They Think you should make less than a substitute teacher. Why put up with this crap?

It felt good to tell this incompetent shyster management group who lie, exaggerate and steal from us to pound sand. They threatened XJT with winding down. They are pressing on and ordering tablets, and restructuring our ops. I though you said we were going out of business? Which is it?
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Old 03-06-2014, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by zoooropa
This is hard to keep straight...

The RAH pilots that actually participated in the IBT Airline Division Negotiating Committee overwhelmingly support the TA.

Meanwhile, the RAH Local 357 Executive Board starts their most recent Pay Day Update with the following sentence...

"After receiving the Negotiating Team’s presentation on Friday, February 21, 2014, and, after very deliberative
and careful consideration as to its merits in the last ten days, the Executive Board’s consensus is to put the TA to
a membership vote without comment."

How can the EBoard remain silent while the NC overwhelmingly endorses the TA? This is an incredibly conflicted message. One of the NC members is on the Eboard. How can he be silent in one letter to the membership and in support of the TA in another letter?

This is incredibly dysfunctional and a COMPLETE failure of leadership by the E-Board.
This is what's going on. Teamsters National was not happy with the Eboard president and the pace of the negotiations. National decided to save the day and brought in a outside negotiator to take over negotiations. ( Some old former United guy). One of the Eboard members went rogue and together with National formed this new negotiating"Team" . The head of the team was this United dude. The team included some of the former negotiating committee members, but not the hard liners and included several new guys hand picked by National . They got this TA. The E board except for the rogue, was not involved at all in the negotiating or agreeing to the TA. Now they are under pressure from National to put this out to a vote and have decided to be neutral and let the membership decide. Based on what I am hearing it aint gonna pass. National hijacked the bus with help from an Eboard member, but instead of returning with a pot of gold they brought back fools gold and now everyone is really upset! Confusing but the truth!
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Old 03-06-2014, 11:25 AM
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This might be the worst TA to make it to voting in recent history. It's literally garbage, there's no way anyone should vote yes for this.
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Old 03-06-2014, 11:51 AM
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Staffing is bad and will continue to be bad even if this piece passes. Management knows that so their goal is to pass something that will keep you on duty for as long as they can and pay you as little as they can. That's why flight time pay is so deceiving and we should get paid duty time. Since that's not happening anytime soon please educate yourselves and read between the lines. You vote this in and you're voting for less money for your family and more time away from them.
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Old 03-06-2014, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
So is it going to pass?
Im thinking that Frosty has a better chance in hades.....

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Old 03-06-2014, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ex9driver
This is what's going on. Teamsters National was not happy with the Eboard president and the pace of the negotiations. National decided to save the day and brought in a outside negotiator to take over negotiations. ( Some old former United guy). One of the Eboard members went rogue and together with National formed this new negotiating"Team" . The head of the team was this United dude. The team included some of the former negotiating committee members, but not the hard liners and included several new guys hand picked by National . They got this TA. The E board except for the rogue, was not involved at all in the negotiating or agreeing to the TA. Now they are under pressure from National to put this out to a vote and have decided to be neutral and let the membership decide. Based on what I am hearing it aint gonna pass. National hijacked the bus with help from an Eboard member, but instead of returning with a pot of gold they brought back fools gold and now everyone is really upset! Confusing but the truth!
Can you say "DFR"?

The IBT Airline Division is negating the ability of the Local 357 to govern per Article XXII of the IBT Constitution;

"The principal executive officer shall, in general,
supervise, conduct, and control all of the business and
affairs of the Local Union, its officers, and employees.
He shall have charge and supervision of all the officers
and employees of the Local Union including elected
Business Agents. The principal executive officer shall
also have charge of all labor controversies involving the
Local Union."

If the IBT Airline Division wants to hijack the negotiations they need to first recall the Local 357 President. They skipped that step, violating their own C&B's.
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Old 03-06-2014, 08:15 PM
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When does this thing get voted on?
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