Loan Forgiveness
03-05-2014, 07:46 AM
#31
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Joined APC: Feb 2010
Position: CFI/CFII/MEI
Posts: 92
You guys are hilarious making assumptions about my life. Saying I'm selfish blah blah blah. I was putting out a possible solution for pilots to improve QOL. I see APC is all about talking tough and sending insults from behind the computer. The comparison to teachers was in regards to pay. If we're talking about loan forgiveness obviously were done taking about making money on the loan so what's the point of bringing it up. Btw my loans are all current so yelling pay up doesn't do anything. And I'm not over 100k in debt guess I was worried about my fellow aviators who are.
03-05-2014, 07:49 AM
#32
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2008
Position: OH CA - Retired
Posts: 355
I started off my career as a public school teacher with student loan debts from college. My plan was to teach in an underserved district and have my loans reduced. The minute I signed on the dotted line with my new employer the government changed the rules. They declared my district was no longer 'underserved.' Was I pizzed? Yes. What did I do? I paid my loans back, begrudgingly. Life isn't fair sometimes.
At present people have (or should have) the understanding that there will be no loan forgiveness for aviation careers. This is a very expensive career, a better choice for a return on investment would be law school or medicine. Well, maybe not medicine. If I had it to do over again I would become an accountant and fly my own plane for fun.
At present people have (or should have) the understanding that there will be no loan forgiveness for aviation careers. This is a very expensive career, a better choice for a return on investment would be law school or medicine. Well, maybe not medicine. If I had it to do over again I would become an accountant and fly my own plane for fun.
03-05-2014, 07:51 AM
#33
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Joined APC: Jun 2010
Position: Doing what you do, for less.
Posts: 1,792
Yeah, because after managing to pay for my own flight training... I, as a taxpayer, should have to help you pay for yours too.
That makes sense. Plus anything that makes it unfairly cheaper for a set group of people to become pilots is going to increase the supply of pilots and screw over the fact that we just might be getting to the right side of the supply/demand curve and have the power to start making this profession a little better.
That makes sense. Plus anything that makes it unfairly cheaper for a set group of people to become pilots is going to increase the supply of pilots and screw over the fact that we just might be getting to the right side of the supply/demand curve and have the power to start making this profession a little better.
03-05-2014, 07:57 AM
#35
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Position: CFI/CFII/MEI
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03-05-2014, 08:29 AM
#37
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Joined APC: Sep 2009
Position: Jets and Props
Posts: 188
That's an ignorant comment. Just because we don't save lives or teach 180 days (yes, only 180 days) each year, we don't have anything to offer society? Why don't you try and imagine what the world would be like without pilots or aviation. Whether your pessimism realizes it or not, we have an incredibly important role in making this country function and prosper. Comparing teachers, nurses, and pilots is like comparing apples and oranges.
03-05-2014, 08:41 AM
#38
Self Employed.
Joined APC: May 2005
Position: Corporate Pilot
Posts: 7,119
Forgiveness?
Teachers and nurses provide a public service that is in demand. As incentive to promote these harbingers of public good there are grounds to support loan forgiveness. Pilots are martyrs on a personal vision quest. Their sacrifice makes it so that the public can fly over the weekend to visit a girlfriend on a whim and pay next to nothing for the service. As such it is not a benevolent sacrifice for the public good and should not be forgiven.
In fact financial destruction due to making foolish self centered career choices should stand as example to succeeding generations. Therefore the best outcome is that the ruined pilot can serve as a cautionary tale of the consequences of making a poor choice.
Skyhigh
In fact financial destruction due to making foolish self centered career choices should stand as example to succeeding generations. Therefore the best outcome is that the ruined pilot can serve as a cautionary tale of the consequences of making a poor choice.
Skyhigh
03-05-2014, 08:49 AM
#39
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2009
Position: Airbus 319/320 Captain
Posts: 880
Maybe we should have formed an insurance company, maybe a car manufacturing facility or, or, maybe a bank. I hope all you self righteous blow hards come down just as hard on the government when it comes to "bail outs". Do you vent to them or just your fellow sky jockeys? Then again, you can continue to spew the same sewage that comes out of Sky's mouth and call yourself content.
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