Actual text of RAH TA
03-03-2014, 08:58 AM
#31
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Sad, but true. The assessment WILL continue! But I have an axe to grind with this union and the NC. They are a crooked bunch and I will cut off my nose to spite my face. Misery loves company. No more cush trips for them. They can all kiss my a$$.
Btw, I voted NO on assessment, did you?
Btw, I voted NO on assessment, did you?
03-03-2014, 10:49 AM
#32
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You are correct indeed. What we should have done or do next time, is hire a professional. Lawyer, agent, whatever. Pilots are not good negotiators by nature.Cheapskates, booze- hounds yes, but not wheelers and dealers.
03-03-2014, 10:53 AM
#33
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03-03-2014, 10:59 AM
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Utipia? Is that when UltiPro works perfectly?
Signing bonus needs to be above what they are giving to the new hires off the street. Period.
And? I'm willing to send this back to the Company to get it fixed. This will easily be a seven year contract, if not ten. I get we are not going to have a mainline contract, but at the end of the day, my paycheck needs to be slightly higher than what SkyWest is making now.
Right now this contract doesn't even cover the inflation from the 2003 CBA.
The Company is desperate to get this contract done. They'll be just as desperate after we vote this one down.
I'd rather wait six months to a year for a decent contract to work under for the next seven years than start a crappy contract tomorrow.
We pay the least amount of dues than any other unionized carrier. If you feel that is too much, you can resign your union membership at any time.
How can I resign my union membership? | National Right to Work Legal Defense Foundation
Of course, after you do that you don't get to vote yes, or no, on any contract, LOA, etc.
Signing bonus needs to be above what they are giving to the new hires off the street. Period.
And? I'm willing to send this back to the Company to get it fixed. This will easily be a seven year contract, if not ten. I get we are not going to have a mainline contract, but at the end of the day, my paycheck needs to be slightly higher than what SkyWest is making now.
Right now this contract doesn't even cover the inflation from the 2003 CBA.
The Company is desperate to get this contract done. They'll be just as desperate after we vote this one down.
I'd rather wait six months to a year for a decent contract to work under for the next seven years than start a crappy contract tomorrow.
We pay the least amount of dues than any other unionized carrier. If you feel that is too much, you can resign your union membership at any time.
How can I resign my union membership? | National Right to Work Legal Defense Foundation
Of course, after you do that you don't get to vote yes, or no, on any contract, LOA, etc.
03-03-2014, 11:23 AM
#35
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8,000,000 sigining bonus. About 2200 pilots? About $3600 per pilot? That's less than the new hire bonus. Wow. This thing is atrocious. It should get voted down 95-5. IBT should be decertified for taking the companies offer and putting it in TA form without even negotiating. I love the pay freeze to let the 175's come down to the 170 rates instead of the other way around. This thing is embarrassing.
03-03-2014, 11:32 AM
#36
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No, former S5 for 7 years and have no dog in the fight other than good friends left to deal with the likes of your obvious lack of understanding of what a yes vote on that pathetic TA entails. And no, I'm not F9 but nice try.
03-03-2014, 11:36 AM
#37
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Why wouldn't they deserve to get paid more than Skywest? Doesn't Skywest deserve to get paid more than Skywest?
03-03-2014, 12:55 PM
#38
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Guess what the assessment (you voted for) did? It hired an attorney who specializes in labor contracts. Maybe you should have been paying a little more attention because this was before CM decided to use the negotiating committee as his personal revenge platform. Maybe you should have payed a little attention years ago when Sowell and Moline were spending thousands of your dollars making non-binding handshake deals that left your contract so open to interpretation by the company it's not worth the paper it's printed on.
03-03-2014, 05:26 PM
#40
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Seriously, I would guess SkyWest pilots would be happy if new Republic pay is greater than theirs as well. Rising tides and ships and all...
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