(Teamsters) Looming pilot shortage is a myth
02-18-2014, 09:59 PM
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There's some truth to that. The baby boomers got on board and pulled up the ladder.
You think CFIs were the ones that drove the retirement age increase?
Corporations aren't greedy, baby boomers are. They made wealth and voted for themselves unsustainable benefits on the backs of future generations, while selling the country's wealth overseas.
I don't want this to be one of those threads, but since you called me out..
Who's supposed to pay for all the six figure government pensions? The children of baby boomers didn't choose that, baby boomers did.
You think CFIs were the ones that drove the retirement age increase?
Corporations aren't greedy, baby boomers are. They made wealth and voted for themselves unsustainable benefits on the backs of future generations, while selling the country's wealth overseas.
I don't want this to be one of those threads, but since you called me out..
Who's supposed to pay for all the six figure government pensions? The children of baby boomers didn't choose that, baby boomers did.
As for unsatainable benefits, the last two wars clock in at 75k per citizen. Great news if you have stock in companies that do no bid DoD contracts. But you will not hear that on FOX, so march on.
02-19-2014, 04:02 AM
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There's some truth to that. The baby boomers got on board and pulled up the ladder.
You think CFIs were the ones that drove the retirement age increase?
Corporations aren't greedy, baby boomers are. They made wealth and voted for themselves unsustainable benefits on the backs of future generations, while selling the country's wealth overseas.
I don't want this to be one of those threads, but since you called me out..
Who's supposed to pay for all the six figure government pensions? The children of baby boomers didn't choose that, baby boomers did.
You think CFIs were the ones that drove the retirement age increase?
Corporations aren't greedy, baby boomers are. They made wealth and voted for themselves unsustainable benefits on the backs of future generations, while selling the country's wealth overseas.
I don't want this to be one of those threads, but since you called me out..
Who's supposed to pay for all the six figure government pensions? The children of baby boomers didn't choose that, baby boomers did.
Both of my gov't pensions probably won't equal 6 figures put together in the end.
It's a little unrealistic to have a backup plan when it takes so much just to get qualified for a professional job now.
02-19-2014, 04:22 AM
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All you have to do is count the number of ATPs and subtract the number of active Major airline pilots who are retiring.
02-19-2014, 06:25 AM
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22 trillion basically close
Not just the war, including unfunded mandates, stimulus, servicing national debt, banksters bad gambling on the derivatives side...
Much more than 22 trillion, divide that into the shrinking USA labor market.
Labor Force around 150 million participants= 150,000USD / worker in the USA.
Punch that bit of reality into 400USD/week F/O position.
The IMF Banking Debt is in the Quadrillions, who will be covering that???
Yes write your representatives....Question them, something is very wrong.
Safe journies...Sushi
Much more than 22 trillion, divide that into the shrinking USA labor market.
Labor Force around 150 million participants= 150,000USD / worker in the USA.
Punch that bit of reality into 400USD/week F/O position.
The IMF Banking Debt is in the Quadrillions, who will be covering that???
Yes write your representatives....Question them, something is very wrong.
Safe journies...Sushi
02-19-2014, 06:42 AM
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Washington Post estimates the Afghanistan and Iraq wars at 4-6 trillion.
Sure, if you want to lump in all of the outrageous spending (by both political parties) then you arrive at numbers you describe.
Both parties have spent way too much for way too long - but nobody seems to care - they just want to point the finger to the other party....and the outrageous spending continues. You are correct - it is not sustainable.
Sure, if you want to lump in all of the outrageous spending (by both political parties) then you arrive at numbers you describe.
Both parties have spent way too much for way too long - but nobody seems to care - they just want to point the finger to the other party....and the outrageous spending continues. You are correct - it is not sustainable.
02-19-2014, 07:07 AM
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Amazing to me how many young guys ASSUME they'll be making it to the majors. It would be like EVERY minor league baseball/hockey player assuming they'll make it to the big show.
All you have to do is count the number of ATPs and subtract the number of active Major airline pilots who are retiring.
All you have to do is count the number of ATPs and subtract the number of active Major airline pilots who are retiring.
A real study would look at the number of Active ATPs with age. It would then take the number of total jobs requiring an ATP and compare that to the amount of ATPs retiring. If the rate of retirement of ATPs is exceeding the amount being created per annum, then you will eventually see a pilot shortage. THAT is the hack way of using statistics. There are many, many more scientifically credible ways to more accurately estimate a shortage. Your narrow-minded math is insufficient.
02-19-2014, 07:13 AM
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Washington Post estimates the Afghanistan and Iraq wars at 4-6 trillion.
Sure, if you want to lump in all of the outrageous spending (by both political parties) then you arrive at numbers you describe.
Both parties have spent way too much for way too long - but nobody seems to care - they just want to point the finger to the other party....and the outrageous spending continues. You are correct - it is not sustainable.
Sure, if you want to lump in all of the outrageous spending (by both political parties) then you arrive at numbers you describe.
Both parties have spent way too much for way too long - but nobody seems to care - they just want to point the finger to the other party....and the outrageous spending continues. You are correct - it is not sustainable.
02-19-2014, 08:24 AM
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