Preferential hiring for Eagle and XJT pilots?
02-18-2014, 06:38 AM
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Don't forget: we have furlough protection for 95% of pilots on the list as of merger completion, and if they furlough they can't meter our flowthrough, and they know that anyone they furlough will be gone forever, and they admitted during negotiations that they wouldn't be able to furlough anybody no matter how we voted.
There could, however, be stagnation, as attrition picks up (and it will). Junior captains like me could lose our seats, it could really hurt. And in theory after a couple of years' worth of attrition, we could be small enough for them to "Comair" us, as they threatened to do. In theory. Still well worth the no vote.
I'm just guessing, but I think they'll try to give PSA our 47 CRJs, and try to give Mesa the 175 order. A little less sure about Mesa, but PSA has shown they'll fly anyone's planes for any price. The real question is how long until each airline fails to staff them. Our management told us they plan to staff flying at PSA with us--they said they would attempt to lure our FOs away by offering street captains or by setting up a flowthrough to AA at PSA. Most of our FOs would have no problem bailing Eagle but are ****ed enough to want to stay away from PSA. I'm sure they'd get a handful, but not much of the 800+ net pilots they need for the 30 new CRJs they are getting (that were offered to us w/ a b-scale and rejected) and our 47. With Republic parking their American Connection E140s, I'm wondering how quickly they can afford to shrink us anyway. Time will tell.
There could, however, be stagnation, as attrition picks up (and it will). Junior captains like me could lose our seats, it could really hurt. And in theory after a couple of years' worth of attrition, we could be small enough for them to "Comair" us, as they threatened to do. In theory. Still well worth the no vote.
I'm just guessing, but I think they'll try to give PSA our 47 CRJs, and try to give Mesa the 175 order. A little less sure about Mesa, but PSA has shown they'll fly anyone's planes for any price. The real question is how long until each airline fails to staff them. Our management told us they plan to staff flying at PSA with us--they said they would attempt to lure our FOs away by offering street captains or by setting up a flowthrough to AA at PSA. Most of our FOs would have no problem bailing Eagle but are ****ed enough to want to stay away from PSA. I'm sure they'd get a handful, but not much of the 800+ net pilots they need for the 30 new CRJs they are getting (that were offered to us w/ a b-scale and rejected) and our 47. With Republic parking their American Connection E140s, I'm wondering how quickly they can afford to shrink us anyway. Time will tell.
Like I said maybe I'm wrong and ignorant to the whole matter.
02-18-2014, 12:03 PM
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This isn't the first time I've heard about the whole idea of Eagle FO to PSA street captain, but how can that work? Maybe I'm just ignorant but wouldn't the PSA MEC have to agree to that and why would they want to do that, because that would be throwing their current members under the bus potentially. If that were to happen, PSA FOs would not upgrade due to the street captains from Eagle, in essence taking their spots from upgrade, especially if a large number of Eagle FOs did it. I don't think management can just arbitrarily do this without consent from PSA ALPA, but maybe I'm wrong. I don't doubt management may want to do this but I just can't imagine PSA ALPA agreeing to it or its members...talk about shooting yourself in the foot if they did.
Like I said maybe I'm wrong and ignorant to the whole matter.
Like I said maybe I'm wrong and ignorant to the whole matter.
Among our other reasons: we are already profitable, and already have a provision of our current contract which protects a certain level of profit for them and adjusts our payscales accordingly. We just signed an 8-year bankruptcy concessionary contract a year ago. They are making the most money airlines have ever made before and are handing out record bonuses. They violate our contract on a daily basis. Perhaps most of all, staffing issues everywhere have given us some leverage. Add in our strong desire to not set the bar even lower for our industry, when we already sit at minimum wage starting salary. Most of our pilot group are not hardline types, myself included. But when you add up all of the above for many of us it was an obvious choice despite possible downsides.
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