Another ExpressJet Question
#41
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Last time I checked a Baron doesn't require a type rating... Are the lears that airnet flies certified for single-pilot? I don't know. For sure they require a type rating to log PIC because they are turbojets, regardless of what part they are operated under.
Heres the reg Fosters. My apologies, its in part 61, not 91
61.51(e) Logging Pilot-in-Command Flight Time
(1) A sport, recreational, private or commercial pilot may log pilot-in-command time only for that flight time during which that person--
(i)is the sole manipulator of the controls for an aircraft which that person is rated or has priveleges;
(ii)is the sole occupant of the aircraft; or
(iii)is acting as pilot-in-command of an aircraft on which more than one pilot is required under the type certificate of the aircraft or the regulations under which the flight is conducted
(2) An airline transport pilot may log as pilot-in-command time all of the flight time while acting as pilot-in-command of an operation requiring a airline transport pilot certificate.
Heres the reg Fosters. My apologies, its in part 61, not 91
61.51(e) Logging Pilot-in-Command Flight Time
(1) A sport, recreational, private or commercial pilot may log pilot-in-command time only for that flight time during which that person--
(i)is the sole manipulator of the controls for an aircraft which that person is rated or has priveleges;
(ii)is the sole occupant of the aircraft; or
(iii)is acting as pilot-in-command of an aircraft on which more than one pilot is required under the type certificate of the aircraft or the regulations under which the flight is conducted
(2) An airline transport pilot may log as pilot-in-command time all of the flight time while acting as pilot-in-command of an operation requiring a airline transport pilot certificate.
#42
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Thanks for posting that. Now go back and read my post. Now go back and read the original question. You basically stated what I stated, although you are still trying to argue your side. If you have a full PIC type and an ATP you can log PIC in the plane. Thanks for taking the time to post the reg though!
When I read the original post TD said a "typed SIC", which I took to mean an SIC with an SIC type. Thats what sparked off this whole thing. Just a simple misunderstanding. Maybe we can all move on with our lives now.
#44
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Are you?
Hows life at AWAC. Any word on the Midwest flying? I heard XJT was asked to resubmit our proposal but have not heard anything since.
Hows life at AWAC. Any word on the Midwest flying? I heard XJT was asked to resubmit our proposal but have not heard anything since.
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#45
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I'll be honest, I would rather the company not get the Midwest stuff. I personally hope someone else wins it. Midwest is too unstable a partner IMO for a private company to be sticking their neck out to the tune of 10-15 obsolete 50 seaters. I'd much rather them stick to the legacies.
#46
Well then, I guess you in your little CFI world has got every little facet of this career figured out already, eh?
Question for ou there Mr CFI. In all these years of you vast expereince of traveling the globe, how much actual use did you bag ACTUALLY get? Did it get dragged, opened up, unpacked, repacked, tossed in and out of baggage compartments, slammed into the back of the hotel van, ect on average of 15 days a month?
I guess I'll tell you again, I must be an idiot for spending that kind of money on a bag that is still going strong after 6+ years of airline flying.
I'm usually not the condescending type, but I'll give it a shot here. It's great that you are grunting it out an instructing and all. But guess what, myself and alot of other people have already been there, done that.
If you actually want an airline job, just wait. When your bag gets tossed in the back on dead heads and commuted or dragged across the ramp through snow, sand, glycol, whatever, see if it's still hanging in there.
Oops, I forgot, I'm talking to an expert who already knows everything about this career, even the little stuff. Sorry. Maybe next time I have a question about my career or how to bid, ect, I'll just ask you since you are so knowledgeable.
If you are considering buying a type, YOU ARE AN IDIOT, PERIOD. Sorry, that one is not up for debate.
Question for ou there Mr CFI. In all these years of you vast expereince of traveling the globe, how much actual use did you bag ACTUALLY get? Did it get dragged, opened up, unpacked, repacked, tossed in and out of baggage compartments, slammed into the back of the hotel van, ect on average of 15 days a month?
I guess I'll tell you again, I must be an idiot for spending that kind of money on a bag that is still going strong after 6+ years of airline flying.
I'm usually not the condescending type, but I'll give it a shot here. It's great that you are grunting it out an instructing and all. But guess what, myself and alot of other people have already been there, done that.
If you actually want an airline job, just wait. When your bag gets tossed in the back on dead heads and commuted or dragged across the ramp through snow, sand, glycol, whatever, see if it's still hanging in there.
Oops, I forgot, I'm talking to an expert who already knows everything about this career, even the little stuff. Sorry. Maybe next time I have a question about my career or how to bid, ect, I'll just ask you since you are so knowledgeable.
If you are considering buying a type, YOU ARE AN IDIOT, PERIOD. Sorry, that one is not up for debate.
You think flying a jet has anything to do with numbers you're dead wrong. There was an investing company that ran comercials all the time on this exact thing. Showing what spending a little extra now cost you in the long run. That $260=$34,625 by time of retirement(age 60). If you saved it till age 75 and never touched it you'd get over $140k....
You're just like someone trying to tell me it's better living in california vs. texas financially speaking when cali has a 76% higher standard of living cost making that $21k salary even smaller.
So you had one question for me there's one answer. If you fly a bigger, faster, more powerful aircraft than me.... You're financial decisions don't mean crap. I actually average over 15% on my Roth IRA setups so I'd say when I retire I won't be an old pilot complaining about how crappy the industry is and how after all that hard work I have nothing to show for it. There are those on here that do.
I'd still like to know why the hell you wanted to bring this into a converstion based on 121 rules, regs, and procedures of airlines. Has no place. However I'm not going to shy away from that statement. It isn't financially sound to spend a ton of money on something that can be done with a little money. If none of that makes sense to you then I'm done with your little arguement.
Duck
#47
You guys posted all that other stuff before I was able to type out that reg. Sorry, I keep forgetting you're better than me Fosters
When I read the original post TD said a "typed SIC", which I took to mean an SIC with an SIC type. Thats what sparked off this whole thing. Just a simple misunderstanding. Maybe we can all move on with our lives now.
When I read the original post TD said a "typed SIC", which I took to mean an SIC with an SIC type. Thats what sparked off this whole thing. Just a simple misunderstanding. Maybe we can all move on with our lives now.
#48
Well then, I guess you in your little CFI world has got every little facet of this career figured out already, eh?
Question for ou there Mr CFI. In all these years of you vast expereince of traveling the globe, how much actual use did you bag ACTUALLY get? Did it get dragged, opened up, unpacked, repacked, tossed in and out of baggage compartments, slammed into the back of the hotel van, ect on average of 15 days a month?
I guess I'll tell you again, I must be an idiot for spending that kind of money on a bag that is still going strong after 6+ years of airline flying.
I'm usually not the condescending type, but I'll give it a shot here. It's great that you are grunting it out an instructing and all. But guess what, myself and alot of other people have already been there, done that.
If you actually want an airline job, just wait. When your bag gets tossed in the back on dead heads and commuted or dragged across the ramp through snow, sand, glycol, whatever, see if it's still hanging in there.
Oops, I forgot, I'm talking to an expert who already knows everything about this career, even the little stuff. Sorry. Maybe next time I have a question about my career or how to bid, ect, I'll just ask you since you are so knowledgeable.
If you are considering buying a type, YOU ARE AN IDIOT, PERIOD. Sorry, that one is not up for debate.
Question for ou there Mr CFI. In all these years of you vast expereince of traveling the globe, how much actual use did you bag ACTUALLY get? Did it get dragged, opened up, unpacked, repacked, tossed in and out of baggage compartments, slammed into the back of the hotel van, ect on average of 15 days a month?
I guess I'll tell you again, I must be an idiot for spending that kind of money on a bag that is still going strong after 6+ years of airline flying.
I'm usually not the condescending type, but I'll give it a shot here. It's great that you are grunting it out an instructing and all. But guess what, myself and alot of other people have already been there, done that.
If you actually want an airline job, just wait. When your bag gets tossed in the back on dead heads and commuted or dragged across the ramp through snow, sand, glycol, whatever, see if it's still hanging in there.
Oops, I forgot, I'm talking to an expert who already knows everything about this career, even the little stuff. Sorry. Maybe next time I have a question about my career or how to bid, ect, I'll just ask you since you are so knowledgeable.
If you are considering buying a type, YOU ARE AN IDIOT, PERIOD. Sorry, that one is not up for debate.
#49
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Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: DD->DH->RU/XE soon to be EV
Posts: 3,732
Mark, do you really want to go there?
Mr. "I'm a thirty something year old wide body CA and FedEx. And on top of that, I have no problem going into the regionals forum on FI and telling them all what a bunch *****s they are for taking jobs at a regional a airline while I flew night cargo in a lear jet and never once complained about it (yeah, right)."
Like I've told you before, it's pretty clear where you are on in the 10% of pilots that all airlines seem to have.
Will you sponsor me when I get my 1000 PIC?
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