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Old 12-15-2006, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by freezingflyboy
Last time I checked a Baron doesn't require a type rating... Are the lears that airnet flies certified for single-pilot? I don't know. For sure they require a type rating to log PIC because they are turbojets, regardless of what part they are operated under.

Heres the reg Fosters. My apologies, its in part 61, not 91

61.51(e) Logging Pilot-in-Command Flight Time
(1) A sport, recreational, private or commercial pilot may log pilot-in-command time only for that flight time during which that person--
(i)is the sole manipulator of the controls for an aircraft which that person is rated or has priveleges;
(ii)is the sole occupant of the aircraft; or
(iii)is acting as pilot-in-command of an aircraft on which more than one pilot is required under the type certificate of the aircraft or the regulations under which the flight is conducted
(2) An airline transport pilot may log as pilot-in-command time all of the flight time while acting as pilot-in-command of an operation requiring a airline transport pilot certificate.
Thanks for posting that. Now go back and read my post. Now go back and read the original question. You basically stated what I stated, although you are still trying to argue your side. If you have a full PIC type and an ATP you can log PIC in the plane. Thanks for taking the time to post the reg though!
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Old 12-15-2006, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by fosters
Thanks for posting that. Now go back and read my post. Now go back and read the original question. You basically stated what I stated, although you are still trying to argue your side. If you have a full PIC type and an ATP you can log PIC in the plane. Thanks for taking the time to post the reg though!
You guys posted all that other stuff before I was able to type out that reg. Sorry, I keep forgetting you're better than me Fosters

When I read the original post TD said a "typed SIC", which I took to mean an SIC with an SIC type. Thats what sparked off this whole thing. Just a simple misunderstanding. Maybe we can all move on with our lives now.
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Old 12-15-2006, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by freezingflyboy
Sorry, I keep forgetting you're better than me Fosters
It's OK, you'll learn eventually .

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Old 12-15-2006, 10:30 AM
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Are you?

Hows life at AWAC. Any word on the Midwest flying? I heard XJT was asked to resubmit our proposal but have not heard anything since.

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Old 12-15-2006, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by freezingflyboy
Hows life at AWAC. Any word on the Midwest flying? I heard XJT was asked to resubmit our proposal but have not heard anything since.
I'll be honest, I would rather the company not get the Midwest stuff. I personally hope someone else wins it. Midwest is too unstable a partner IMO for a private company to be sticking their neck out to the tune of 10-15 obsolete 50 seaters. I'd much rather them stick to the legacies.
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Old 12-15-2006, 10:52 AM
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Well then, I guess you in your little CFI world has got every little facet of this career figured out already, eh?

Question for ou there Mr CFI. In all these years of you vast expereince of traveling the globe, how much actual use did you bag ACTUALLY get? Did it get dragged, opened up, unpacked, repacked, tossed in and out of baggage compartments, slammed into the back of the hotel van, ect on average of 15 days a month?

I guess I'll tell you again, I must be an idiot for spending that kind of money on a bag that is still going strong after 6+ years of airline flying.

I'm usually not the condescending type, but I'll give it a shot here. It's great that you are grunting it out an instructing and all. But guess what, myself and alot of other people have already been there, done that.

If you actually want an airline job, just wait. When your bag gets tossed in the back on dead heads and commuted or dragged across the ramp through snow, sand, glycol, whatever, see if it's still hanging in there.

Oops, I forgot, I'm talking to an expert who already knows everything about this career, even the little stuff. Sorry. Maybe next time I have a question about my career or how to bid, ect, I'll just ask you since you are so knowledgeable.

If you are considering buying a type, YOU ARE AN IDIOT, PERIOD. Sorry, that one is not up for debate.
Well like I said I've had it 8yrs. I don't know how many times it's been slammed around but in and out of Kenya, China, Japan, Thailand, Morocco, England, all over the carribean, India, Cambodia, Egypt, Uganda, Hawaii, New Zealand, Australia, Canada, Mexico, and countless snow skiing trips ect. Not to mention being used weekly while in college(5yrs which got abused more than at any airline). So I'd say it's gotten tons of actual use and it's 8yrs old. I'd say it's been shoved a fair time or two and it's still in great condition. So if it ever does break. I'll get another $40 one. Just because you fly an RJ doesn't mean anything financially. I paid for all my flight training, over $40k worth on my own while holding jobs in college and investing. I had to put $2k on a visa after I graduated but that's gone. The only loan I have out is the one on my truck. So after all of my college, all of my flight trainging, living expenses ect. I have zero debt, money in savings, maxed out Roth IRA every year, ect. and I'm still a CFI. I did have to sell my stock to pay off my credit card debt from additional training. I wasn't making more than 22% on the stock so it had to go though. But I dont know of anyone my age right now that isn't just assbackwards in debt. So I'd say my financial sense is pretty good. Good enough to where yes... $300 on a bag that does everything my $40 one does isn't a wise choice. Sorry to break it. No matter how much you try and justify it, spending 2% of yearly income as a regional pilot on luggage is retarded. So if a $40 bag breaks on you in 5yrs. By then you'll be making much more and it won't be as large of a chunk of your total earnings, you can buy another $40 or get the $300 one. So if you take my $40 bag vs. your $300 bag. We'll pretend mine broke in 5yrs (even though 8yrs old and used constantly)... If you would ahve invested that $260 difference and made 15% a year on it. You would have made an extra $522.00 off that one bag. But since you haven't made it that's how much you've spent on it. If we kick it up to 8yrs. That bag cost you $795.35 more than mine did. And if you had to make payments because as an FO you didn't make as much ect to pay it all off at once you really were taken to the cleaners with 20+% interest.

You think flying a jet has anything to do with numbers you're dead wrong. There was an investing company that ran comercials all the time on this exact thing. Showing what spending a little extra now cost you in the long run. That $260=$34,625 by time of retirement(age 60). If you saved it till age 75 and never touched it you'd get over $140k....

You're just like someone trying to tell me it's better living in california vs. texas financially speaking when cali has a 76% higher standard of living cost making that $21k salary even smaller.

So you had one question for me there's one answer. If you fly a bigger, faster, more powerful aircraft than me.... You're financial decisions don't mean crap. I actually average over 15% on my Roth IRA setups so I'd say when I retire I won't be an old pilot complaining about how crappy the industry is and how after all that hard work I have nothing to show for it. There are those on here that do.

I'd still like to know why the hell you wanted to bring this into a converstion based on 121 rules, regs, and procedures of airlines. Has no place. However I'm not going to shy away from that statement. It isn't financially sound to spend a ton of money on something that can be done with a little money. If none of that makes sense to you then I'm done with your little arguement.


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Old 12-15-2006, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by freezingflyboy
You guys posted all that other stuff before I was able to type out that reg. Sorry, I keep forgetting you're better than me Fosters

When I read the original post TD said a "typed SIC", which I took to mean an SIC with an SIC type. Thats what sparked off this whole thing. Just a simple misunderstanding. Maybe we can all move on with our lives now.
That's fine... But a beer is in order. I have a little sheet. I'm adding your name.
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Old 12-15-2006, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by dojetdriver
Well then, I guess you in your little CFI world has got every little facet of this career figured out already, eh?

Question for ou there Mr CFI. In all these years of you vast expereince of traveling the globe, how much actual use did you bag ACTUALLY get? Did it get dragged, opened up, unpacked, repacked, tossed in and out of baggage compartments, slammed into the back of the hotel van, ect on average of 15 days a month?

I guess I'll tell you again, I must be an idiot for spending that kind of money on a bag that is still going strong after 6+ years of airline flying.

I'm usually not the condescending type, but I'll give it a shot here. It's great that you are grunting it out an instructing and all. But guess what, myself and alot of other people have already been there, done that.

If you actually want an airline job, just wait. When your bag gets tossed in the back on dead heads and commuted or dragged across the ramp through snow, sand, glycol, whatever, see if it's still hanging in there.

Oops, I forgot, I'm talking to an expert who already knows everything about this career, even the little stuff. Sorry. Maybe next time I have a question about my career or how to bid, ect, I'll just ask you since you are so knowledgeable.

If you are considering buying a type, YOU ARE AN IDIOT, PERIOD. Sorry, that one is not up for debate.
wow..mr. bigshot airline pilot...a whole 6 years as a commuter pilot... man u have seen it all...hey toilet duck..u keep doing your cfi thing and 1 day u too can be a bigshot like dorkjetdriver..good luck with the new bag...
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Old 12-15-2006, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptainMark
wow..mr. bigshot airline pilot...a whole 6 years as a commuter pilot... man u have seen it all...hey toilet duck..u keep doing your cfi thing and 1 day u too can be a bigshot like dorkjetdriver..good luck with the new bag...

Mark, do you really want to go there?

Mr. "I'm a thirty something year old wide body CA and FedEx. And on top of that, I have no problem going into the regionals forum on FI and telling them all what a bunch *****s they are for taking jobs at a regional a airline while I flew night cargo in a lear jet and never once complained about it (yeah, right)."

Like I've told you before, it's pretty clear where you are on in the 10% of pilots that all airlines seem to have.

Will you sponsor me when I get my 1000 PIC?
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Old 12-15-2006, 11:19 AM
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this buds for you..dorkjetdriver

http://www.l1011.homestead.com/BUDairlinepilot.html
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