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Old 12-10-2013, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by PeopleMover90
We do have guaranteed jobs. They have to hire minimum 4/month.



Just wait.
No 4 people have guaranteed jobs lol. So they can interview in seniority and offer positions to only 4 people. Wow. Good for you guys.
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GoJet is at 2 years. Give or take.
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Originally Posted by bernouli
GoJet is at 2 years. Give or take.
False.......
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Originally Posted by PeopleMover90

Just wait.
I hope your dream comes true to fly a big rj's as a captain to make lower wages than your fellow pilots. When you look out that window at other rj's just know they don't respect you. you can blabber on all you want about how good it's going to be, but at the end of the day you and your kind is are the cockroaches of the industry. Psa now has a tarnished reputation. 60 some percent are some of the most spineless coward pilots the industry has seen.
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Originally Posted by Moonwolf
False.......
False?

The seniority of the ongoing upgrades is at 2 years.

There are still some guys that are captains that just recently got off of probation. By recently I mean December or November of 2012 hire dates.
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Originally Posted by Moonwolf
I hope your dream comes true to fly a big rj's as a captain to make lower wages than your fellow pilots. When you look out that window at other rj's just know they don't respect you. you can blabber on all you want about how good it's going to be, but at the end of the day you and your kind is are the cockroaches of the industry. Psa now has a tarnished reputation. 60 some percent are some of the most spineless coward pilots the industry has seen.
Gaining the respect of a big time 28 year old regional FO isnt something too many concern themselves with.

When's upgrade for ya?
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Old 12-11-2013, 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by bernouli
Gaining the respect of a big time 28 year old regional FO isnt something too many concern themselves with.

When's upgrade for ya?
Thanks for making me young. And I can't respect someone who truly doesn't understand business.

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I hope your dream comes true to fly a big rj's as a captain to make lower wages than your fellow pilots. When you look out that window at other rj's just know they don't respect you. you can blabber on all you want about how good it's going to be, but at the end of the day you and your kind is are the cockroaches of the industry. Psa now has a tarnished reputation. 60 some percent are some of the most spineless coward pilots the industry has seen.
Moonwolf, we are picking up more Wisconsin people each class, your future is so bright don't let it get you down. You have so much to look forward to! what a great business plan you all have.
 
Old 12-11-2013, 06:34 AM
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What about Mesa?

What I see is the 2013 and early 2014 classes reaching upgrade at around two years, which could continue with some attrition and growth.

We had 9/11 and an economic downturn surpress growth for a decade. Could upgrade times at all of the regionals go back to "normal" in the coming years?
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Originally Posted by PeopleMover90
Thanks for making me young. And I can't respect someone who truly doesn't understand business.



Moonwolf, we are picking up more Wisconsin people each class, your future is so bright don't let it get you down. You have so much to look forward to! what a great business plan you all have.
That's funny because I see the resignations and none of them say going to PSA on them. Keep reaching buddy.
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Originally Posted by RV5M
What about Mesa?

What I see is the 2013 and early 2014 classes reaching upgrade at around two years, which could continue with some attrition and growth.

We had 9/11 and an economic downturn surpress growth for a decade. Could upgrade times at all of the regionals go back to "normal" in the coming years?
Problem is regionals are probably going to shrink more just like the majors have gone through. I believe in 2000 Delta had close to 10,000 pilots. I believe the combined Delta/NWA list has like 12,000 but don't quote me on that. Hiring would really need to pick up and another problem(at least at my airline), is that at least half if not more of the attrition here is FOs leaving for spirit, allegiant, virgin, etc. A lot of Captains are waiting for Delta/American/United, etc. For all the large jets that come on property usually means more parked 50 seaters. To think that regionals that have a bunch of 50 seaters are going to replace those planes 1 for 1 is very delusional. Any "growth" will generally be at the expense of another airline. I am a fairly senior captain and I very rarely move up. The days of short upgrades may return but hiring at the majors needs to be firing on all cylinders and you need to find an airline that isn't choking to death on mostly 50 seat aircraft.
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