FixTheMess

What's your point? I have all the empathy in the world for the "no" voters, but it doesn't change the fact you are part of a union where the majority determined the direction to take the group. all the "no" voters had options to persuade the other side. If there was a question whatsoever as to the outcome of the vote being yes, a push to remove the MEC could have begun immediately. To my knowledge, this didn't happen. I'm sorry if you aren't a believer that the harsh reality is that sometimes there are casualties, hostages, or whatever you want to call them. It sucks, and I wouldn't want to be in the "no" voters shoes, but them's the breaks. Unfortunately, at this point, really the only thing the objectors can do is apologize for the actions of their coworkers. That, and get the ball rolling for an MEC recall, or ALPA decert.

Saabs

What's stale is regionals claiming they are getting flying "stolen". Yes I flew for Colgan, which was contract carrier much like current day regionals. I'm not an original kinda guy, sorry.

rightside02

How bad or worse is this new contract ? Can anyone post some simple facts ?

Herb Flemmming

Whos left?

bonesbrigade

People like you are 'tarded and are the reason that most everyone in this industry thinks that pilots are dbags.

skyxbomb

Well, you can always apply to silver airways, pdt, CommutAir, Great Lakes because apparently they're not a scab airline and doesn't deserve to be disliked and need to be looked up upon.

fullflank

Changes to health insurance. Not sure how much it will be going up though. Pay caps. F/O's at year 4 ($39.50/hr I think), CA's at year 12 ($90.00 ish). Must apply and interview at the new AA, or have your pay frozen at current longevity (continue to receive contractual raises through 2017). Anyone between year 12-18 now will not get longevity pay increases from current rate, only contractual raises. It's basically a B-scale for anyone who is not at year 18 pay already ($99/hr).

pitchtrim

People like me stand up for what's right. The no voters are right there with me.

TMoney

Really? Butter for popcorn. I like the idea of sharing ideas on the forums but that is so childish. I'm trying to post logical and well developed arguments and I enjoy hearing the same in return. You can't seem to do the same. Anyway, for the sake of other readers who have a sense of professionalism:

Correct me if I'm wrong but Eagle was told if they take concessions during the bankruptcy, which they did, that they would get the new RJs. It wasn't contractual but I'm sure an Eagle guy can post some evidence for this argument. I've heard it from a few different Eagle guys. I may be wrong on that, however.

I do know that after the bankruptcy, they were offered their awful B Scale contract to get those planes on property. After their MECs stood up for the pilot group and didn't take the pay cut, another airline (PSA) said we have no self respect and don't mind taking those planes that would have otherwise been at eagle, even if it means taking concessions. That to me is stealing planes from Eagle.

Saabs

Or any other carrier could have negotiated a contract to fly them. It's not eagles flying it's whoever gets the contract. No regionals steal flying from another regional. They only negotiate with the mainline company. Regionals are in a dog eat dog mentality, sadly.