Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Regional
Food for thought for Regional Pilots >

Food for thought for Regional Pilots

Search

Notices
Regional Regional Airlines

Food for thought for Regional Pilots

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-02-2006, 07:54 AM
  #11  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Dec 2005
Position: 7ER B...whatever that means.
Posts: 3,982
Default

Originally Posted by LAfrequentflyer
Only a matter of time before a 'Long-RJ' replaces a 777 on the routes...

-LAFF
In my opinion, mainline carriers should be flying anything bigger than 50 seats even if it is still an "RJ". Remember when American and Piedmont used to fly the F70s/F100s? Those were 70 and 90 something seats respectively. Remember the DC-9-10? Thats a 90 seater. If mainline pilots would grow some balls, quit worrying about their pensions and quit giving away the farm on scope I think we would all be a lot better off.
freezingflyboy is offline  
Old 12-02-2006, 08:19 AM
  #12  
Gets Weekends Off
 
tomgoodman's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: 767A (Ret)
Posts: 6,248
Default Dress code

Originally Posted by STILL GROUNDED
I hasn't been a respectable profession since people were allowed to wear flip flops and tank tops for the trip to florida.
And that's the flight crew! You should see what the passengers look like!
tomgoodman is offline  
Old 12-02-2006, 03:01 PM
  #13  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Blkflyer's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: Cessna 152 Captain
Posts: 695
Default

Cant we all just Get along
Blkflyer is offline  
Old 12-02-2006, 03:20 PM
  #14  
Gets Weekends Off
 
saab2000's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,750
Default

For the 767 guy to blame the RJ pilots is to place blame in the wrong camp. They conceded that flying. I wish they hadn't. But they did. I would cap all so-called RJ flying at 76 seats. Period.

I have a friend who is a 777 captain and he NEVER talks down to me like that and knows who is working harder.

Funny how when you are on their jumpseat they feel free to patronise the RJ guys, but when they are on ours they kiss our asses.
saab2000 is offline  
Old 12-02-2006, 03:26 PM
  #15  
Gets Weekends Off
 
JetJock16's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: SkyWest Capt.
Posts: 2,963
Default

Originally Posted by freezingflyboy
In my opinion, mainline carriers should be flying anything bigger than 50 seats even if it is still an "RJ". Remember when American and Piedmont used to fly the F70s/F100s? Those were 70 and 90 something seats respectively. Remember the DC-9-10? Thats a 90 seater. If mainline pilots would grow some balls, quit worrying about their pensions and quit giving away the farm on scope I think we would all be a lot better off.
I agree with all of the above expect what you have to say about the pilots at major airlines. Sept. 11 took everyone’s balls away and the majors made the decision to outsource more flying because they couldn't afford to by the a/c themselves. I do think that in the near future, you will see more majors flying E170/E190s and buying RJ just like JB, US Airways, F9 and NWA are doing.
JetJock16 is offline  
Old 12-02-2006, 03:35 PM
  #16  
Gets Weekends Off
 
saab2000's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,750
Default

Originally Posted by JetJock16
I agree with all of the above expect what you have to say about the pilots at major airlines. Sept. 11 took everyone’s balls away and the majors made the decision to outsource more flying because they couldn't afford to by the a/c themselves. I do think that in the near future, you will see more majors flying E170/E190s and buying RJ just like JB, US Airways, F9 and NWA are doing.

I would agree with that. When I say that I would cap it at 76 seats I have ZERO problem with capping it at 50 seats, even if it is the same type rating.

The larger and larger so-called RJs are nothing of the sort. They connect major city pairings and are flying halfway across the country. Today I flew CLT-MSP on an RJ! Is that a "Regional" flight? We all know it is nothing of the sort.
saab2000 is offline  
Old 12-02-2006, 03:36 PM
  #17  
Gets Weekends Off
 
JetJock16's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: SkyWest Capt.
Posts: 2,963
Default

Originally Posted by saab2000
For the 767 guy to blame the RJ pilots is to place blame in the wrong camp. They conceded that flying. I wish they hadn't. But they did. I would cap all so-called RJ flying at 76 seats. Period.

I have a friend who is a 777 captain and he NEVER talks down to me like that and knows who is working harder.

Funny how when you are on their jumpseat they feel free to patronise the RJ guys, but when they are on ours they kiss our asses.
Right on! This may cause some trouble but we at the regionals work 4-5 times harder those at the majors. How do I figure, other than SWA, we do 8 legs with 15-20 minute turns, no breaks and 10-14 hour duty days. Plus, we do all that at 1/3 the rate. On the Bro my average 4 day trip has 22-24 legs with 23-25 hours block. Don't get me wrong, puddle jumping in the Bro is a hell of a lot of fun, but by day 4 you’re beat.
JetJock16 is offline  
Old 12-02-2006, 04:42 PM
  #18  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Dec 2005
Position: 7ER B...whatever that means.
Posts: 3,982
Default

Originally Posted by saab2000
I would agree with that. When I say that I would cap it at 76 seats I have ZERO problem with capping it at 50 seats, even if it is the same type rating.

The larger and larger so-called RJs are nothing of the sort. They connect major city pairings and are flying halfway across the country. Today I flew CLT-MSP on an RJ! Is that a "Regional" flight? We all know it is nothing of the sort.
Pfffft, thats nothing. We regularly fly IAH-ORD in the ERJ. Thats a 3 hour flight between the 4th and 3rd largest cities in the country. But like I said, the pilots are not the ones who choose when and where to fly. I just point the airplane where they tell me whether its at Alexandria, LA or Chicago.
freezingflyboy is offline  
Old 12-02-2006, 06:46 PM
  #19  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Apr 2006
Posts: 112
Default

Originally Posted by freezingflyboy
Pfffft, thats nothing. We regularly fly IAH-ORD in the ERJ. Thats a 3 hour flight between the 4th and 3rd largest cities in the country. But like I said, the pilots are not the ones who choose when and where to fly. I just point the airplane where they tell me whether its at Alexandria, LA or Chicago.

Dont forget our:
IAH-YYZ (thats Toronto CANADA for those that dont know)
IAH-with a stop in Mexico-LAX
IAH-PSP
IAH-DSM
IAH-MSP
IAH- and so on and so on

This "regional" jet sure is busy.....Like you I cant complain, I just go where they tell me to go......
Hunt599 is offline  
Old 12-02-2006, 08:08 PM
  #20  
Gets Weekends Off
 
STILL GROUNDED's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Dec 2005
Position: Left Seat
Posts: 1,105
Default

Originally Posted by freezingflyboy
Oh get off it STILL GROUNDED All your posts lately seem to railing on RJ drivers for flying 2+ hour legs between "big cities". It's not like the pilots decided when and where to fly their little shiny jet. Just because you're jealous of the guys blasting off to places cooler than Bumfunck, KS doesn't mean you need to blame RJ drivers. Open your eyes, domestic air travel in this country is moving towards smaller airplanes flying more frequently to more destinations. Right behind price, most air travelers choose who they fly with based on schedule. The airlines are figuring out that its better business to fly 6-8 RJs a day from A to B instead of 2-3 737s. Even international air travel is going that way. Now you have 737s and 757s flying to far more destinations more frequently whereas before you used to have 3-4 767/747/777s flying to just a few destinations. The industry is evolving, thats just the way it is.
Yep I get jealous, and I lay awake in my bed next to my wife every night after my 7 hour day four days a week enjoying my 3 sometimes 4 day weekend. I have yet to loose sleep over the fact that I dont get departure delays for not going to ORD or BOS or LGA. Have fun this holiday season warming the ramp in your RJ.

oh yeah thats a BURN!

You're out of control. I am not saying it is right wrong. I tend to agree it is what it is. The mainline guys are the ones that gave up the flying, how do you get that I am jamming that down RJ drivers throats. I was directing this whole thing as SAAB because he is the one alwas throwing flame bait at everyone other than Express Jet, mostly Mesa. Thought it was ironic that he would feel treated this way after making some of the remarks he as about others.

I'll tell you what I told him, read it out loud a couple of times before you reply with something that is 180 degrees from what I said.

And sincerely have a great holiday. That goes for you all, fight the good fight!
STILL GROUNDED is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
nw320driver
Foreign
35
10-15-2010 07:41 PM
fireman0174
Major
46
11-19-2006 05:49 AM
flystraightin
Major
4
05-31-2006 06:31 AM
HSLD
Flight Schools and Training
2
05-14-2006 09:07 AM
RockBottom
Major
0
04-29-2005 07:26 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices