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Old 05-08-2013, 11:01 AM
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Do you really think other regionals will attract ATP-rated 1,500+ hr pilots to fly for $23k a year? And even if they do, you think they will get enough of these applicants to fill RJ FO seats?
If I am hearing correctly, RAH both CAN and IS for their jet flying.

Also, was my last post incorrect? I thought that was how events went down.
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Old 05-08-2013, 11:38 AM
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Do you really think other regionals will attract ATP-rated 1,500+ hr pilots to fly for $23k a year? And even if they do, you think they will get enough of these applicants to fill RJ FO seats?
Isn't Virgin a subpar paying airline? There will always be guys willing to fly for any airline for any pay to build time. Look in the mirror.
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Isn't Virgin a subpar paying airline? There will always be guys willing to fly for any airline for any pay to build time. Look in the mirror.
It's competitive with Frontier, Allegiant, and Spirit, which are all within the same scope (eg, about 50 airplanes flying as a LCC model). It's unrealistic and not in te dame scope to compare VX pay to legacies. The fair comparison is to other LCCs as mentioned.
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Old 05-08-2013, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
It's competitive with Frontier, Allegiant, and Spirit, which are all within the same scope (eg, about 50 airplanes flying as a LCC model). The fair comparison is to other LCCs as mentioned.
Except for the steamer in the sink ....
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Originally Posted by block30
If I am hearing correctly, RAH both CAN and IS for their jet flying.

Also, was my last post incorrect? I thought that was how events went down.
RAH is going to have a tough time staffing AAs 53 new planes let alone be a 9E replacement. It's unrealistic to do within a year. More realistic would be 2-3 years, which is what the -200 winddown is to begin with. Just 41 planes left, and the new order for 40 planes as a carrot to vote yes. But even this will take through 2016. A fleet that big cannot be parked in 12 months. Look at the current fleet plan.
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Old 05-08-2013, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
RAH is going to have a tough time staffing AAs 53 new planes let alone be a 9E replacement. It's unrealistic to do within a year. More realistic would be 2-3 years, which is what the -200 winddown is to begin with. Just 41 planes left, and the new order for 40 planes as a carrot to vote yes. But even this will take through 2016. A fleet that big cannot be parked in 12 months. Look at the current fleet plan.
I was particularly referring to XJT, SKW, and GJ for the 9E flying....I won't go into more details or sources, but from what I can tell, Delta was *not* bluffing and other places were preparing to pick 9E's bones.

You know, I keep hearing RAH won't be able to staff, but even as things get more cataclismic there, they are still filling jet classes. (The Q seems to be its own ball of wax....)
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Old 05-08-2013, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by block30
Weren't other DCI carriers hiring at a steady clip until the vote took place and Pinnacle would survive?
Comair stopped hiring five years before the Pinnacle vote. I don't know about the rest of DCI.
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Old 05-08-2013, 01:10 PM
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I was particularly referring to XJT, SKW, and GJ for the 9E flying....I won't go into more details or sources, but from what I can tell, Delta was *not* bluffing and other places were preparing to pick 9E's bones.

You know, I keep hearing RAH won't be able to staff, but even as things get more cataclismic there, they are still filling jet classes. (The Q seems to be its own ball of wax....)
I wonder what Shy would do If everyone put him on their ignore list
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Old 05-08-2013, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
It's competitive with Frontier, Allegiant, and Spirit, which are all within the same scope (eg, about 50 airplanes flying as a LCC model). It's unrealistic and not in te dame scope to compare VX pay to legacies. The fair comparison is to other LCCs as mentioned.
Whatever makes you feel better about flying an airbus for subpar wages. No matter how you spin it, you are flying an airbus for subpar wages.
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Old 05-08-2013, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by dc10guy
Whatever makes you feel better about flying an airbus for subpar wages. No matter how you spin it, you are flying an airbus for subpar wages.
I am not a fan of Shyguy or cherokee whatever he calls himself around here but... With that said, he flies an Airbus with 140ish pax as a FO for the same wages after year one that most of us are flying 76 seat pax around as CA. We all are part of the problem.
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