Learning Flows with no mock up
04-12-2013, 02:05 PM
#21
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: FO
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So it isn't exactly that much extra anyway. Then again do what your company tells you to do.
My current company required us a to get a PIC type and sit our LOE from the left seat at the time. Therefore, we needed to be proficient at the them. Yea sometimes you get crossed up, but that will happen in real life on line sometimes. It wasn't bad.
My previous company just required us to know that CA preflight, as it did most the system tests that were required and an easy way to do the oral exam.
Just do what your company expects of you.
04-12-2013, 02:53 PM
#22
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Joined APC: Sep 2008
Posts: 239
I put all the flows on legal pad in large print "Shaprie" block letters and tacked them to the wall on my hotel room adjacent to the cockpit poster. Chair-flying until you are smooth and expedient is the best way to learn...Flash cards are great for memorization tasks i.e., memory items, limitations, "fingertip knowledge" out of the FOM, etc...Lots of good ideas here, but find what works best for you. Above all take some time to relax, workout, drink a beer, etc...None of this stuff is all that difficult, it just comes at a fast pace.
04-12-2013, 06:58 PM
#23
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: Forever commuting
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I wouldn't waste time on the CA flows. When I went through training we just used the checklist to hit the flow items for the CA stuff. After you do it a few times you'll pick it up through repetition. Remember the penguins on the iceberg concept. Memorizing CA flows when not required just adds more penguins to an iceberg near capacity.
04-12-2013, 08:37 PM
#24
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Joined APC: Jan 2013
Position: CA
Posts: 176
Don't listen to the nerds telling you to memorize CA flows, unless the company tells you to. Training is all about time and study management and that advice will help you fail by wasting efforts. You have enough on your plate already.
04-12-2013, 08:58 PM
#25
Da Hudge
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: Poodle Whisperer
Posts: 17,473
I always found it helpful to learn both sets of flows. It's not my top priority in studying at first, but as I lock things down, I typically add in what the other seat is doing. 6 type ratings later, my methods have definitely proven very successful. It requires a healthy amount of alcohol intake during studying, though. I forgot to mention that.
04-13-2013, 08:51 AM
#26
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Joined APC: Sep 2011
Posts: 395
Man, if I didn't have any paper tigers to look at when learning the E145, I don't know how the heck I would have learned 1/2 the stuff I know from training... Too many buttons, knobs, switches, etc... to mess up in the wrong place without having a photographic memory, or a picture in front of me...
04-13-2013, 03:33 PM
#27
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Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: Right Seat... Forever
Posts: 410
You can print a large mock-up at fedex kinko's for around $25. Get a picture of the flight deck and the parts you want (overhead panel, center pedestal etc.) You can make it in photoshop by defining the size to what you'll need and then they'll do it for you. If you have access to an engineering department at a university they can do it too. If you tell me what type you need i can make the file for you also if it is more than you want to do. PM me. I did an erj145 once.
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